Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 1st Dec 2010 22:45 UTC
In the News And so the Wikileaks saga continues - with politics once again crossing with the technology side of things. After several DDoS attacks on Wikileaks' website, the organisation decided to move their website over to Amazon's cloud service yesterday. Today, Amazon kicked Wikileaks out of its cloud after being pressured by US Congress. Update: [Kroc] In a Q&A on the Guardian website, Julian Assange drops the bomb--Amazon failed the test: "Since 2007 we have been deliberately placing some of our servers in jurisdictions that we suspected suffered a free speech deficit inorder to separate rhetoric from reality. Amazon was one of these cases.". Stunning.
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RE[3]: the truth is there
by modmans2ndcoming on Sat 4th Dec 2010 02:21 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: the truth is there"
modmans2ndcoming
Member since:
2005-11-09

Anarchy is NOT direct democracy. Direct democracy has rules and structure. Anarchy is simple mob rule and whomever rules the mob rules. There are no laws under Anarchy and civil society cannot exist without rules. Even the most basic tribal civilization has rules. Anarchy does not fit into the picture of Human society.

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RE[4]: the truth is there
by dylansmrjones on Sat 4th Dec 2010 05:10 in reply to "RE[3]: the truth is there"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Anarchy have laws, and have structure. It has nothing to do with mob rule and chaos. You do not understand what anarchy is.

Anarchy is absense of State (in its centralised oppressive form), but not absense of structure, laws nor organisation. It is however voluntary organisation instead of forced organisation.

Mob rule is what you have when you have a state. USSR was a mob rule. USA is becoming one.

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RE[5]: the truth is there
by Tuishimi on Sun 5th Dec 2010 00:44 in reply to "RE[4]: the truth is there"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

Anarchy have laws, and have structure. It has nothing to do with mob rule and chaos. You do not understand what anarchy is.

Anarchy is absense of State (in its centralised oppressive form), but not absense of structure, laws nor organisation. It is however voluntary organisation instead of forced organisation.


You keep saying that. HOW is structure maintained "voluntarily"? So everyone is expected to know "the rules" and to not only obey them but enforce them? I suppose the rules would have to indicate "due process" because otherwise yeah, it is a MOB MENTALITY.

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