Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 8th Dec 2010 12:16 UTC
Internet & Networking It looks like several companies are learning what happens when you mess with the internet - and they're learning it the hard way. Several major companies have been hit by the collective powers of Anonymous after 4chan launched several distributed denial-of-service attacks. What many have been predicting for a long time now has finally happened: an actual war between the powers that be on one side, and the internet on the other. Update: PayPal has admitted their WikiLeaks snub came after pressure from the US government, and Datacell, which takes care of payments to Wikileaks, is threatening to sue MasterCard over Wikileaks' account suspension. Update II: Visa.com is down due to the attack. Update III: PayPal has caved under the pressure, and will release the funds in the WikiLeaks account.
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Our clients lost money during a hard time
by Adurbe on Wed 8th Dec 2010 19:37 UTC
Adurbe
Member since:
2005-07-06

For all the moralising going on, this hit ordinary people who have Nothing to do with it. In many ways the attack was indiscriminate in its effect. For this reason I cant condone it.

We have clients in an industry that is already suffering Very heavily during the downturn. A number have already gone under or are close to. This attack today caused them to lose thousands of pounds in lost revenue. Money they can ill afford to lose.

Has this helped prove a point to the US gov? I dont think so.
Has it hurt ordinary, uninvolved, people? Yes.



p.s. I do not work for a bank/credit card/financial company

Reply Score: 1

deathshadow Member since:
2005-07-12

That's kind of the point -- if it didn't effect people what good would it be?

Change requires getting the normal people riled up so they are at least aware of something that frankly -- 99% of Joe Sixpack and Susie Sunshine types would otherwise neither care about or even realize is going on... and if that means holding companies for ransom to get them to back the hell down, well -- at least it's better than taking up arms and doing it 18th century style. (Though increasingly I'm sure the founding fathers are rolling over in their graves)

As the old George Carlin joke goes, "you don't stop drugs by going after potheads, you do it by arresting the BANKERS who launder the drug money. You put a few rich white bankers in prison and you won't even be able to buy drugs in schools and playgrounds!"

Which is why VISA is exactly the type of institution to have a giant bullseye painted on it when push comes to shove...

Of course given that credit is as Peter Schiff said when taking President dumbass to task for calling it "The lifeblood of the economy" -- It's not the lifeblood, it's the CANCER... So excuse me if I don't exactly shed a tear for an institution as responsible for the collapsing economy as every other form of moneylending.

Ah, Anonymous -- None of us can be as ruthlessly destructive as all of us. Were that we were this effective when it came to stamping out religious hoodoo like Scientology.

Besides, given the flashtard train-wreck their website is when it's working, combined with them redirecting Opera users to the mobile site thanks to a faulty browser sniffer, combined with absurdly undersized and illegible fixed metric fonts and a "WCAG, What's that" attitude, so far as the Internet is concerned IMHO Visa is just getting what's coming to them.

Edited 2010-12-09 00:45 UTC

Reply Parent Score: 4

Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

clearly banks and finance are the source of all that is evil. Bring back the barter system!

I wonder if you would grandstand in quite the same way if it was Your company that went under during this 'attack' and Your job that was lost.

Its frankly shocking the mentality you hold that innocent bystanders are an 'acceptable loss' to make your political point.

Reply Parent Score: 2