Linked by fran on Wed 8th Dec 2010 23:11 UTC
Oracle and SUN In an interview that gives some deeper insight into the fall of the company, ex Sun boss Scott McNeally talked to Gavin Clarke of The Register. "Sun was the fastest growing US company between 1985 and 1989, according to Forbes, and supplied the entire US government with more than half its workstations nine years after starting."
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Sun had so many problems
by HunterA3 on Fri 10th Dec 2010 20:27 UTC
HunterA3
Member since:
2005-10-19

mainly their problems were as follows:

Microsoft
RedHat
HP
Compaq
Dell
IBM
Linux
2001 dotcom bubble
Fujitsu/Amdahl

Opensourcing their programs would have had little impact on their success or failure. What would have helped was Solaris on x86, cheaper and more reliable hardware, and having their own service support staff rather than outsourcing it to lower paid and under trained field engineers from companies indifferent to their cause.
Instead they left the other vendors to creep in using truly standard hardware and more readily available operating systems. Then they partially conceded their mainframe business to Fujitsu and that was the death knell.

Now the only things that keeps them afloat (apart from Oracle) is their StorageTek tape library business, Java, Solaris, and a niche server market (partially propped up by their partnership with Fujitsu).

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RE: Sun had so many problems
by nt_jerkface on Sat 11th Dec 2010 02:20 in reply to "Sun had so many problems "
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

What would have helped was Solaris on x86,


I would have put that at #1.

McNealy was making one-liners about x86 even when it was clear that billion dollar companies like Google had no intention of switching to Sparc.

The guy couldn't shake x86 hatred out of his system and that is what killed the company.

But that is lame how the author took my underpants gnome analogy.
http://www.binplay.com/2009/09/suns-best-buy-ever.html
http://tmrepository.com/trademarks/underpantsgnomesstrategy/

Ripping off a blogger, what a hack.

Edited 2010-12-11 02:31 UTC

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

Update: they changed it, nevermind.

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Yer. It's just a pity the underpants gnone analogy is bollocks itself as well.

It's merely an analogy that gives Microsoft and other prorietary software vendors reassuring warm fuzzies about their business model. This conveniently paints over the fact that the value is in resource sharing, even amongst competitors (something Sun was never going to do because it was all an act), and that 20% of the Linux kernel, as an example, is developed by people who have no company affiliation such as those in academia.

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