Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 13th Dec 2010 19:27 UTC, submitted by lemur2
Mono Project For the most time, I've been firmly in the largest camp when it comes to the Mono debate - the 'I don't care'-camp. With patent lawsuits being hotter than Lady Gaga right now, that changed. For good reason, so it seems; while firmly in the 'ZOMG-MICROSOFT-IS-T3H-EVILL!1!!ONE!'-camp, The-Source.com investigated the five most popular Mono applications, and the conclusion is clear: all of them implement a lot of namespaces which are not covered by Microsoft's community promise thing.
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RE[3]: Evil Companies
by TheGZeus on Mon 13th Dec 2010 23:10 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Evil Companies"
TheGZeus
Member since:
2010-05-19

Haskell, Erlang...
There are others, too.
If you require type checking, that kinda throws out CL, but there's Liskell if you want more flexibility of syntax than Haskell provides.
Everything starts obscure, so that's no argument in-and-of itself.

Both Haskell and Erlang actually have a relatively large number of useful libraries.

IDE? I'm not sure why one would want one, but some people _seem_ to want to program with a mouse...
I don't know anything about them, other than I... don't get it. Emacs user...

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RE[4]: Evil Companies
by TheGZeus on Tue 14th Dec 2010 00:39 in reply to "RE[3]: Evil Companies"
TheGZeus Member since:
2010-05-19

Voted down for... being helpful?
I'm not _angry_. It doesn't affect my life, really.
Just a 'O_o' moment.

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RE[5]: Evil Companies
by Tuishimi on Tue 14th Dec 2010 12:16 in reply to "RE[4]: Evil Companies"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

I think it was your final paragraph that rubbed someone the wrong way.

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RE[4]: Evil Companies
by Delgarde on Tue 14th Dec 2010 00:46 in reply to "RE[3]: Evil Companies"
Delgarde Member since:
2008-08-19

IDE? I'm not sure why one would want one, but some people _seem_ to want to program with a mouse...
I don't know anything about them, other than I... don't get it. Emacs user...


As an Emacs user, you should understand perfectly why someone would want an IDE - it practically *is* one.

As an Eclipse user, I almost never use the mouse, relying almost exclusively (and instinctively) on a huge number of shortcut keys for every conceivable operation. A single application for writing, compiling, running, debugging code? Tools for working with code - renaming, extracting functions, warning of possible errors? Plugins for everything else you could ever want?

Does that not sound at all like Emacs to you?

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RE[5]: Evil Companies
by TheGZeus on Tue 14th Dec 2010 02:21 in reply to "RE[4]: Evil Companies"
TheGZeus Member since:
2010-05-19

Yeah.

However, I just... use Emacs.

Eclipse is gigantic and anything it has that Emacs lacks seems to be something I would never want.

Most people who speak of an IDE wouldn't include Emacs or VIM + *insert extension(s)* in the class of "IDE".
They usually mean "Approachable GUI IDE".

_That's_ what I'm talking about; that when people ask for a good IDE, all I can suggest is Emacs, as I know nothing about the alternatives, because I've never wanted to use one since learning Emacs.

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RE[4]: Evil Companies
by Kasi on Tue 14th Dec 2010 04:12 in reply to "RE[3]: Evil Companies"
Kasi Member since:
2008-07-12

Oh no, programing with a mouse is so 2000's.
The cool kids program with the Xbox Kinect now - Its all over engadget.

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RE[4]: Evil Companies
by moondevil on Tue 14th Dec 2010 09:38 in reply to "RE[3]: Evil Companies"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

I love Haskell, but you should be aware that Haskell development is sponsored by Microsoft.

http://research.microsoft.com/apps/dp/search.aspx?q=haskell#p=1&ps=...

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RE[5]: Evil Companies
by TheGZeus on Tue 14th Dec 2010 17:28 in reply to "RE[4]: Evil Companies"
TheGZeus Member since:
2010-05-19

Ok...
But they didn't develop it, nor do they claim ownership.

I don't care who foots the bill if they don't call the shots.

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