Linked by Howard Fosdick on Mon 13th Dec 2010 23:11 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless It's hard to predict the future because we humans prefer to think in terms of familiar paradigms. Even the most brilliant of our species are subject to this flaw. Now, Microsoft faces its turn. The owner of the operating system that likely runs your personal computer, the company that achieved monopoly with Windows and ducked the Department of Justice's scythe to keep it, faces a midlife crisis as the world goes gaga over portable consumer devices. This is the story of what's happening to Microsoft in the handheld operating system markets -- and how it parallels the earlier, similar journeys of IBM Corporation and Digital Equipment Corporation. Can Microsoft achieve dominance on mobile devices?
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RE: The issue is Foothold.
by lemur2 on Tue 14th Dec 2010 01:41 UTC in reply to "The issue is Foothold."
lemur2
Member since:
2007-02-17

Basically Linux is appearing that it will get a strong foothold in mobile devices equal or stronger than MS foothold in desktop. A foothold it can use to slowly chip away at the desktop.


This kind-of assumes that the whole objective of every player should be to dominate the desktop.

Look at it perhaps another way:

Linux dominates in embedded devices, internet infrastructure and supercomputers, it has a significant slice (maybe even the main player) in servers, and it has a decent share in mobiles, handhelds and netbooks.

OSX has a modest share in desktops, no presence to speak of in servers, embedded devices or supercomputers, and the lions share in mobiles, handhelds and tablets.

Windows dominates the desktop, has a decent share of servers (maybe even the main player), and is not significant anywhere else.

Edited 2010-12-14 01:45 UTC

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RE[2]: The issue is Foothold.
by shotsman on Tue 14th Dec 2010 08:05 in reply to "RE: The issue is Foothold."
shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

I agreed with most of what you said but to say that Microsift/Windows is the main player in the server market is just plain silly.

Edited 2010-12-14 08:06 UTC

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RE[3]: The issue is Foothold.
by REM2000 on Tue 14th Dec 2010 09:26 in reply to "RE[2]: The issue is Foothold."
REM2000 Member since:
2006-07-25

I think i would have to agree with the sentiment of Microsoft being the main player in the Server market, i think the number of organisations without a windows server in their organisation somewhere is pretty slim. With many org's using Windows Server as their primary server OS.

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RE[2]: The issue is Foothold.
by jmtx86 on Tue 14th Dec 2010 15:31 in reply to "RE: The issue is Foothold."
jmtx86 Member since:
2008-02-08

You don't know the server market. Your information is false. Microsoft is the dominate Server operating system. Linux dominates web services and that is even being threaten by MS.

Apple does have a server presence; though its niche. Walk into any media production datacenter and you will find a good portion of Mac OSX servers. To be fair you will find a good portion of Linux used for Rendering farms.

I agree that Linux strengths is the micro OS market; PLC controllers, setup, and any ROM based computer. Believe it or not WinCE also has a good strength in this market as well.

Regarding the stats Android is "linux", so this should be mention when doing a honest statistic. Linux is becoming the dominate mobile platform for smart phones.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

Did the Linux kernel developers allow Google's customizations into the kernel tree again? Last I heard they'd rejected Google's changes resulting in Google maintaining it's own fork of Linux (the kernel) though they do use much of the GNU userland wrapped around it.

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RE[3]: The issue is Foothold.
by Lennie on Tue 14th Dec 2010 18:20 in reply to "RE[2]: The issue is Foothold."
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Microsoft is loosing market share in the webserver business:

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/category/web-server-survey/

They tricked a few parked-domain sites to switch in the past (with a financial incentive) but they are loosing share.

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RE[2]: The issue is Foothold.
by shmerl on Tue 14th Dec 2010 16:07 in reply to "RE: The issue is Foothold."
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Windows is far behind from being a main player in servers. I doubt it it would ever catch up on Unix/Linux in this regard.

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RE[2]: The issue is Foothold.
by tyrione on Tue 14th Dec 2010 21:15 in reply to "RE: The issue is Foothold."
tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

"Basically Linux is appearing that it will get a strong foothold in mobile devices equal or stronger than MS foothold in desktop. A foothold it can use to slowly chip away at the desktop.


This kind-of assumes that the whole objective of every player should be to dominate the desktop.

Look at it perhaps another way:

Linux dominates in embedded devices, internet infrastructure and supercomputers, it has a significant slice (maybe even the main player) in servers, and it has a decent share in mobiles, handhelds and netbooks.

OSX has a modest share in desktops, no presence to speak of in servers, embedded devices or supercomputers, and the lions share in mobiles, handhelds and tablets.

Windows dominates the desktop, has a decent share of servers (maybe even the main player), and is not significant anywhere else.
"

What do you think mobiles, handhelds and tablets are? Embedded devices.

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RE[3]: The issue is Foothold.
by lemur2 on Tue 14th Dec 2010 21:43 in reply to "RE[2]: The issue is Foothold."
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

What do you think mobiles, handhelds and tablets are? Embedded devices.


What I meant to indicate when I said "embedded devices" is products like digital TVs, PVRs, GPS devices and things like digital photo frames. Typically, anything with a screen and a menu that is not a computer.

Meego in particular is targetted at this type of product:
http://meego.com/devices

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