Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 13th Dec 2010 19:27 UTC, submitted by lemur2
Mono Project For the most time, I've been firmly in the largest camp when it comes to the Mono debate - the 'I don't care'-camp. With patent lawsuits being hotter than Lady Gaga right now, that changed. For good reason, so it seems; while firmly in the 'ZOMG-MICROSOFT-IS-T3H-EVILL!1!!ONE!'-camp, The-Source.com investigated the five most popular Mono applications, and the conclusion is clear: all of them implement a lot of namespaces which are not covered by Microsoft's community promise thing.
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RE: So we all agree then...
by JAlexoid on Tue 14th Dec 2010 15:05 UTC in reply to "So we all agree then..."
JAlexoid
Member since:
2009-05-19

If you do not agree sit back and think for a sec.. nobody has proven ANY theft of any code.. the only thing for debate is the names of the libraries NOT the way they are implemented.


You are confusing copyright and patents. Patents cover how it's implemented. You don't need to violate copyright. If you create a compatible implementation then most likely you will infringe on a patent.

All this stuff about oracle not going to sue java implementations is nice conjecture and big call given the current environment..and given that sun /oracles future is in serious doubt and needs $ .. due mainly to MS SQL clusters ;)


Oracle is as entrenched in enterprises as much as Microsoft Office is. They also have a s***load of $$$ and a very dependable revenue stream.

Microsoft is no more likely to (or be able to) sue mono than java... or android.. or me... or you.

The only patents that are in question are software implementation patents that apply to ALL software that implements them.

Yet, it's at patent holders digression who to sue, they are not obliged to sue everyone...

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RE[2]: So we all agree then...
by ducker on Tue 14th Dec 2010 15:23 in reply to "RE: So we all agree then..."
ducker Member since:
2006-12-26

. If you create a compatible implementation then most likely you will infringe on a patent.


So all virtulisation is doomed .. apparently? .. i think you missed the point about it having to be proven in court.


Oracle is as entrenched in enterprises as much as Microsoft Office is. They also have a s***load of $$$ and a very dependable revenue stream.


Market cap
Oracle 150 Billion
Microsoft 233 Billion

If its between these two microsoft wins.. besides its portfolio is almost the definition of diverse .. oracles struggling to diversify to protect its future profitability. ie buying Sun My sql etc ..

Yet, it's at patent holders digression who to sue, they are not obliged to sue everyone...


I only wish amazon had the balls to sue over the 1 click patent.. then we would know. Right to sue doesnt mean youll win.

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JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19


Market cap
Oracle 150 Billion
Microsoft 233 Billion

HA! ROTFMAO! Then Apple beats those two!

Just as a reference that market cap has nothing to do with company's survival:
Sun $140.16 billion (Y2000)
Microsoft $447.21 billion (Y1999)
Oracle's current market cap is highest ever
IBM $179.25 billion (current)
Novell $7.5 billion (Y1999)
Apple $2.3 billion (Y1997) $295 billion (current)

Oracle had a very steady growth over last 10 years. Microsoft's has been decreasing, with only 2010 finally increasing.

Let alone, Microsoft's income is still centred around OS and Office. Oracle has already a bunch of products that are successful on their own.

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