Linked by snydeq on Fri 17th Dec 2010 22:32 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu InfoWorld's Savio Rodrigues sees 2010 as a watershed year for Ubuntu, one that could herald meaningful enterprise interest in the OS, thanks to a rising tide of developers - and deployment servers - adopting the OS. "As with many recent trends in the IT industry, developers become ambassadors for products they enjoy using and have quickly become an early indicator for enterprise technology usage in the future. In a seemingly perfect storm, Ubuntu is benefiting from strong developer usage, and the fact that developers are increasingly selecting Amazon's EC2 cloud platform bodes well for continued Ubuntu success on EC2," Rodrigues writes, noting that Ubuntu has surpassed Red Hat usage on deployment servers as well. "As that occurs, IT decision makers will need to consider or reconsider Ubuntu for usage within the enterprise. Rest assured that Red Hat won't sit idly by during these discussions."
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RE[5]: Comment by flanque
by dylansmrjones on Sat 18th Dec 2010 16:55 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by flanque"
dylansmrjones
Member since:
2005-10-02

Huh?
Entranched world view? No evidence? WTF? Did you read nothing? And evidence of what? Numbers? The stats are already there. Take a look at Ukraine, Denmark etc. in regard to the mobile OS area.

No, statistics are not completely pointless, but they have to be used with proper caution. Particularly when they are known to be flawed (as all statistics are). Web statistics are notoriously flawed, and cannot be used the way some of you are using them. They can at best represent a trend, and that trend is damn clear.

Calling me a zealot is funny. Following threads are hardly your typical GNU/Linux-zealot: http://www.osnews.com/thread?271241
http://www.osnews.com/thread?271248

If I'm a zealot I'm at least not the typical braindead zealot so common on slashdot and such places. Besides that I thought most zealots would attack the messenger, or the opponent, and not the method of collection. Zealots usually aren't that bright.

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RE[6]: Comment by flanque
by lucas_maximus on Sat 18th Dec 2010 17:33 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by flanque"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Huh?
Entranched world view? No evidence? WTF? Did you read nothing? And evidence of what? Numbers? The stats are already there. Take a look at Ukraine, Denmark etc. in regard to the mobile OS area.


Whether it is or not doesn't really matter in the context of the article.

Your original assertion was that

On the desktop Linux' main area is Europe (at least when considering 1st and 2nd world countries). The situation in USA may be very different.


And then the desktop stats are linked. You ignore this and carry on chatting about mobile then you say this.

They can at best represent a trend, and that trend is damn clear.


And the trends show that for the desktop, Windows 7 usage is increasing, Windows XP & Vista are decreasing, MacOSX is staying the same and Linux is hasn't moved from the bottom.

Edited 2010-12-18 17:35 UTC

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RE[7]: Comment by flanque
by dylansmrjones on Sat 18th Dec 2010 17:46 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by flanque"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

You are twisting my words around and using them with the opposite meaning.

My claim was that Linux on the Desktop was a reality several years. This is merely a matter of technological level and has NOTHING to do with Market Share which will always be near-zero because Linux is free and gratis. My second claim was that Europe was the main area for GNU/Linux desktop. I didn't claim GNU/Linux was larger than Windows in Europe. Just that Europe was an area where GNU/Linux was doing well. And it is. Flawed statistics does not disprove that, no matter how much you try.

Besides that my claims have nothing to do with market share or usage share per se. But rather with usability.

Linux conquered the desktop back in 2003/04 AFAICT.

EDIT: If you read the post you'll see that Westlake asked me to take a look at the mobile area. I did that. I did not switch context. Westlake did. I just answered questions in regard to the mobile are. Besides that the mobile area is very much relevant for the desktop and for the distributed systems running on the net (e.g. the cloud).

Edited 2010-12-18 17:48 UTC

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RE[7]: Comment by flanque
by shotsman on Sun 19th Dec 2010 21:14 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by flanque"
shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

none of the Fourty of so Linux or Solaris systems I work on would figure in those stats.
They run all the external facing sites of a Billion $ enterprise. However they are all receiving web hits and are not only firewalled but load balanced off a direct connection to the internet.

This is pretty common in Enterprise businesses. We run SAP, Oracle, Websphere App Server etc all on our servers. The OS of choice was Solaris but since Oracle change the rules of the game, we are agressively moving to RHEL.
SAP/R3 would be moving to Linux if it weren't for SAP licensing.
This is not some startup but a Billion $ Business.
Windows in the Enterprise? not in this one thank you very much.
W7 is being de-emphasised on many desktop as well. Run what you want as long as it does the job. Linux, XP or OS/X it don't matter.

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