Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 17th Dec 2010 22:43 UTC
Google The source code for Android 2.3 has been released. "Nexus S went on sale yesterday morning in the US, running Gingerbread. Just like I did for Froyo, I'm open-sourcing the matching Android platform source code, right after the first consumers get their hands on it. I'm going to start literally right now, and the process will take a few hours."
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RE[2]: Am I reading this correctly?
by _txf_ on Sun 19th Dec 2010 23:29 UTC in reply to "RE: Am I reading this correctly?"
_txf_
Member since:
2008-03-17

Basically with android aosp, the phone could (depending on the model) boot, but beyond that things that require drivers not in the google kernel will not work.

Incidentally, drivers and *extra stuff* is one the reason things like CyanogenMod exist. It is up to the community to add all the extra stuff that is not included in the android releases.

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mrhasbean Member since:
2006-04-03

Incidentally, drivers and *extra stuff* is one the reason things like CyanogenMod exist. It is up to the community to add all the extra stuff that is not included in the android releases.


While I understand this completely I don't know many non-techy people who are either interested in or capable of rooting their phone to install an updated version of the OS, especially when...

"I was told it would just update automatically!"

I know it's a walled garden, and all those lovely descriptors people want to throw at it, but every single person who I know that has an iPhone 3G, 3Gs or 4 - and there are a lot of them - are running the latest iOS, because they simply clicked update.

I appreciate that this is also the case with Google's own phones, but my point is that there are surely a lot of people out there who've bought into the whole "it's just like an iPhone only open" or "it's just like an iPhone but you can do more with it" thing, who bought other Android based phones, who may have to wait months to be able to use their sexy "over the air" updating to get new features, if at all.

Being one of the "I want it now!" brigade, I know if it was mine I'd be pretty pissed off.

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_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17


I know it's a walled garden, and all those lovely descriptors people want to throw at it, but every single person who I know that has an iPhone 3G, 3Gs or 4 - and there are a lot of them - are running the latest iOS, because they simply clicked update.


Aha,yes that is true. However I bet many of those people didn't expect updates to cause issues like ios 4 on 3gs. Or that major features wouldn't be available to them. But yes the Iphone does benefit from lack of diversity.


I appreciate that this is also the case with Google's own phones, but my point is that there are surely a lot of people out there who've bought into the whole "it's just like an iPhone only open" or "it's just like an iPhone but you can do more with it" thing, who bought other Android based phones, who may have to wait months to be able to use their sexy "over the air" updating to get new features, if at all.

Being one of the "I want it now!" brigade, I know if it was mine I'd be pretty pissed off.


Whoever is saying Android is iphone but open should be shot. Also whoever is marketing that ought be hung, drawn and quartered.

It is usually the case that the I want it now, buy good phones and root them. It is usually the the cheap or carrier branded phones that suffer the worst...but then you get what you paid for...

Edited 2010-12-20 00:54 UTC

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arpan Member since:
2006-07-30

I want to buy an Android phone (LG Optimus One), because it is a good price and has decent features and is a big upgrade from my nokia-dumb phone, but am hesitant to buy it because the company does not give any info about how long they will support and update the phone. Also, there does not appear to be a cynogenmod available for that phone.

So, here I am ready to spend the money but not sure if it is a good idea. I'll probably wait until 3.0 is released and buy a low-end phone that runs 3.0 decently. Atleast that way, it is likely that I'll get updates for 3.x alteast!??

Atleast with the iPhone, even the old 3GS is guaranteed updates for another 1.5 years. I wish Google & Android phone vendors would do something about mentioning how long phones would be supported.

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

If they are non-techy, they don't want in-depth updates anyway, I think.

I still remember the day where I helped a relative with his iPod Touch, which exhibited some strange behaviors. Turns out he had updated it to iOS 4 without knowing exactly what it was about, and even worse the update process didn't go perfectly well.

Myself, I would never update any of my computers (phones included) to a new major release of their OS/firmwares without having done a full back-up and having some hours to spend recovering everything if the update process didn't went well. Minor security/stability updates are generally safe, but major updates change a lot and thus have a much higher chance of breaking something in the way.

Edited 2010-12-20 15:06 UTC

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coreyography Member since:
2009-03-06

Most of the people I know bought in to Android because Verizon doesn't offer iPhones - and they were not going to AT&T just for an iPhone ;)

It's really not much different from my WinMo days; if you wanted an OS feature two versions later than what came on the phone, you turned to the porting/hacking community. If Apple is indeed backporting all their new iOS versions to old hardware, then good for them. One does pay a price for that in other areas, though.

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