Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 21st Dec 2010 22:56 UTC, submitted by fran
Windows Very light on details, but this is interesting nonetheless - very interesting, and potentially one of the biggest things to have hit the operating systems business this decade. Bloomberg is reporting that Microsoft plans to announce Windows for ARM processors at CES in January 2011.
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RE: Counter foothold move.
by flanque on Tue 21st Dec 2010 23:39 UTC in reply to "Counter foothold move."
flanque
Member since:
2005-12-15

MS does not have a good enough OS on ARM to complete.

How do you know if it hasn't been released, we have almost no details and no reviews?

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oiaohm Member since:
2009-05-30

"MS does not have a good enough OS on ARM to complete.

How do you know if it hasn't been released, we have almost no details and no reviews?
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If you had read my full line. You would have seen this was referring to MS existing OS's on arm. Windows CE and Windows Phone(what is basically a CE core).

CE feature set does not compare to Linux or darwin or qnx. Yes Linux the core of Android. Darwin the core of Iphone. And QNX the core the blackberry.

Most likely the fast way to expand there OS core function is port NT. But even then NT has baggage in its design.

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henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

CE feature set does not compare to Linux or darwin or qnx. Yes Linux the core of Android. Darwin the core of Iphone. And QNX the core the blackberry.


Have you ever seen/used a *full* version of CE 4 or greater? (and *full* is subjective, as the platform builder lets you pretty much customise the OS completely.) The OS itself is a reasonably complete implementation of Win32 - albeit, the UNICODE version of the API. The userland lets it down, bet really, the restrictions were put in place when it was running on devices with about a couple of megabytes of internal storage, including the ROM space. I used to code for a handset with an RFID reader and the OS it used was extremely complete, if you ignored the fact that Microsoft didn't seem like they were trying to make it in to a desktop OS. It was no worse than the Sharp Zaurus SL5500, which runs LINUX and was of a similar vintage. This was 5 years ago. Things don't stay still.

Someone else mentioned drivers - well, no one seems to have issues creating drivers for other CE based devices. In industrial use, they are quite frequently used in various applications for data entry and such. They come with a variety of interfaces and add ons.

Apps - well, most Win32 API based apps are reasonably easy to port. At the point I was at 5 years ago, the main issues were the lack of non UNICODE API and that the OS was missing some the parts that the desktop OS had available. But, if you had the entire Windows codebase, porting those parts would be possible and so therefore most of the issues would go away. If you use DotNet, the differences reduced greatly, especially when you are using CE 5 based OS.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

I understand that, but why are you talking about CE? That is old news. This is new news. As such, I think they are talking about full blown windows 7. You haven't seen it. I haven't seen it.

If you are talking about a modern version of windows ( like 7 rather than NT4, the last time the product name used "NT"), then I think the market has thus far decided that its "good enough" for most desktop users, despite its flaws. And I think that's what this is about, desktop on ARM. Really more likely netbook/tablet on ARM, but same difference.

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