Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 21st Dec 2010 22:56 UTC, submitted by fran
Windows Very light on details, but this is interesting nonetheless - very interesting, and potentially one of the biggest things to have hit the operating systems business this decade. Bloomberg is reporting that Microsoft plans to announce Windows for ARM processors at CES in January 2011.
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RE[4]: what's the point?
by oiaohm on Wed 22nd Dec 2010 01:11 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: what's the point?"
oiaohm
Member since:
2009-05-30

Silverlight runs on wp7 (arm) already.


And it eats power not effective. Silverlight has failed as a web platform. To try to save MS R&D costs MS has tried to refactor it as a Mobile device development factor without retooling it for that job.

Basically there is such thing as kicking a dead horse and Silverlight is exactly that. Its a dead horse that MS does not want to admit is a screwup.

.Net is also screwed up for Mobile Devices. Google did not alter the way Java worked for Android for no good reason. The importance of power management.

MS at this stage is not tooled up correctly.

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RE[5]: what's the point?
by adizzy on Wed 22nd Dec 2010 01:19 in reply to "RE[4]: what's the point?"
adizzy Member since:
2007-05-29

I agree that Silverlight failed as web platform.

But you don't have any proof that it eats up battery life on WP7. Infact WP7 battery life appears to be similar to all other phones out there.

And as for your statement that Google went the Dalvik route because of battery life concerns, you have not shown any proof to back that up.

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RE[6]: what's the point?
by oiaohm on Wed 22nd Dec 2010 05:23 in reply to "RE[5]: what's the point?"
oiaohm Member since:
2009-05-30

I agree that Silverlight failed as web platform.

But you don't have any proof that it eats up battery life on WP7. Infact WP7 battery life appears to be similar to all other phones out there.

And as for your statement that Google went the Dalvik route because of battery life concerns, you have not shown any proof to back that up.

You don't have to look to far. And its not the Dalvik where most of the alterations are.
I said altered Java that not just referring to the JVM. Dalvik improves memory effectiveness compared to the standard JVM and does help a little with powereffectiveness.

Dalvik itself does take a power hit. Little bit of coding for android and you see where android is different to normal Java and almost every major difference links back to improved power usage.

Most WP7 apps are not written in Silverlight.
XNA and XAML are not Silverlight. So of course Windows Phone 7 is going to have more apps sooner than Android. Android started off with basically a complete blank slate with a highly altered API not compadible with normal Java applications.

Now XNA and XAML. XNA was designed for games. Was not designed with the idea of being power effective. XAML is about as messy as the Android graphical solution. So in my eye Silverlight is dead MS does not want to own upto it so is trying to relabel XNA and XAML as it.

Yes WP7 phone is equally power effective as an android device until it starts having to run multi apps. Its also the reason why android has apps to measure the power effectiveness of applications so users can choose better power designed applications. Ie android better coded applications are more powereffective. WP7 all your apps are basically the same crap level of power effectiveness that lines up near the bottom edge of android apps.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

I don't much like Silverlight either; yet another Flash/Java runtime compiler to have installed offering vulnerabilities.. however, "dead horse" is a bit exaggerated. It's currently the best performer for streaming media; outperforms Flash I hear. You'll not be watching your Netflix without it. I'm also seeing it required for hosted conference services. It's also a microsoft product, you know they're going to push it as hard as .NET.. MS already has it required for enterprise apps.

I do hope it lays down beside old Bessy but it seems alive and well so far.

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oiaohm Member since:
2009-05-30

I don't much like Silverlight either; yet another Flash/Java runtime compiler to have installed offering vulnerabilities.. however, "dead horse" is a bit exaggerated. It's currently the best performer for streaming media; outperforms Flash I hear. You'll not be watching your Netflix without it. I'm also seeing it required for hosted conference services. It's also a microsoft product, you know they're going to push it as hard as .NET.. MS already has it required for enterprise apps.

I do hope it lays down beside old Bessy but it seems alive and well so far.

Where have you been Google aquire Netflix drm provider.

Yes You can view Netflix without .Silverlight it works on the PS3 does it not. Normal MS troll without out of date information.

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