Linked by robojerk on Thu 30th Dec 2010 00:09 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless I have often wondered why there wasn't a flood of Android portable media players - now the WSJ Reports: "With the move, Samsung will round out a series of Galaxy-named gadgets that matches product for product with Apple Inc.'s line of iPods, iPad and iPhone. Samsung will have the Galaxy Player, Galaxy Tab and Galaxy smartphone. All use a variation of Google Inc.'s Android operating system and work with apps developed for it."
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RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Fri 31st Dec 2010 00:28 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai
Member since:
2005-07-06

Well, the abandonment issue is pretty misleading.

There are two different issues with abandonment:

OS updates:

It runs android, an open source operating system for mobile devices. There are third party providers of updates that can be installed in the most popular devices to keep them up to date. Relying on the carrier or manufacturer of the devices for updates is not always necessary.


I have a Vodafone 845 - I suggest you look at the 'third party roms' that require one to jump through several flaming hoops just to get upgraded and if things go wrong then your forfeit your warranty. Sorry I expect the hardware vendor to provide updates for at least 3 years. If Microsoft can support their products for more than 5 years, and Apple can keep providing iOS upgrades to devices over 2 years old then I think at the very least the Android vendors should at least match Apple.

You can write your own! No third party approval. If switching to a third party OS is too much for you, you can improve the device itself through writing apps for it, or finding apps online and installing them. Screw the App store review!


Too bad if the phone or pad is locked down and requiring a hack to get around the restrictions. The existence of Android on a device doesn't preclude vendor lock in.

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RE[5]: Comment by kaiwai
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Fri 31st Dec 2010 06:43 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

You complained about the lack of support for the devices. I was just trying to figure out what the heck that really meant in practice : OS updates and Application updates. If thats not what you meant, please feel free to specify what you did mean. Because it still seems like Android devices have huge advantages in the area I thought you were complaining about.



I can never modify IOS on any apple device, ever.

Plus, there is zero chance for me to install anything other than what Apple wants on their devices without voiding the warrenty/EULA, regardless of carrier.


Simply put, if you care about those things, you don't buy an IOS device.

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RE[6]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Fri 31st Dec 2010 07:03 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

You complained about the lack of support for the devices. I was just trying to figure out what the heck that really meant in practice : OS updates and Application updates. If thats not what you meant, please feel free to specify what you did mean. Because it still seems like Android devices have huge advantages in the area I thought you were complaining about.


There is no advantage because you're just as dependent upon the device vendor for operating system updates as you as if you were for an iOS device from Apple - at least in the case of iOS however you're not going to be left high and dry in a years time when a new version is released. I never raised anything about applications, the complete focus has been on the operating system itself - stop diverting the discussion to peripheral matters.

I can never modify IOS on any apple device, ever.


And you can't do that with Android unless you install a hack/work around which is a risky operation that quite frankly I'm not going to do.

Plus, there is zero chance for me to install anything other than what Apple wants on their devices without voiding the warrenty/EULA, regardless of carrier.


Amazing enough that is the same situation with Android but at least with Apple you know the device that you bought a year ago will receive an iOS update when the next version comes out.

Simply put, if you care about those things, you don't buy an IOS device.


Which is a diversion from the fact that android devices are crap - devices being sold to consumers only to be told in a years time that if they want the next version of Android they're going have to throw away their old device and buy a new one. Sorry, but that is just plain fucking stupid.

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