Linked by robojerk on Thu 30th Dec 2010 00:09 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless I have often wondered why there wasn't a flood of Android portable media players - now the WSJ Reports: "With the move, Samsung will round out a series of Galaxy-named gadgets that matches product for product with Apple Inc.'s line of iPods, iPad and iPhone. Samsung will have the Galaxy Player, Galaxy Tab and Galaxy smartphone. All use a variation of Google Inc.'s Android operating system and work with apps developed for it."
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RE[7]: Comment by kaiwai
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Fri 31st Dec 2010 17:35 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by kaiwai"
Bill Shooter of Bul
Member since:
2006-07-14

I still don't understand why you want OS updates. I was guessing it had something to do with providing new functionality ( system features and/or enabling apps with new abilities).

And you can't do that with Android unless you install a hack/work around which is a risky operation that quite frankly I'm not going to do.


I agree. All I was saying, and you seem to agree is this:

Modifying OS

IOS => IMPOSSIBLE, with any effort.
Android => POSSIBLE, with some effort.



Amazing enough that is the same situation with Android but at least with Apple you know the device that you bought a year ago will receive an iOS update when the next version comes out.


Let's do another chart to clarify.


Non store Application instalation:


*IOS (with all carriers) => POSSIBLE with some carrier and device manufacturer disapproved effort (Jail breaking).

*Android (with some carriers)=> POSSIBLE, with some carrier and device manufacturer disapproved effort (Jail breaking).

*Android (with other carriers) => POSSIBLE, out of the box with no hacks necessary


Which is a diversion from the fact that android devices are crap - devices being sold to consumers only to be told in a years time that if they want the next version of Android they're going have to throw away their old device and buy a new one. Sorry, but that is just plain f--king stupid.


Whoah. Calm down fellow. Its just technology. People are allowed to buy devices they prefer. Just because you don't like a product, that doesn't make it crap to everyone else. There may not be a "BEST" device for everyone, and its clear we have our own priorities when it comes to getting a phone/ media player.

There are some of us here, who would call ourselves "hackers". We like writing operating systems and applications. We are going to want a device that allows us to do that.

Edited 2010-12-31 17:36 UTC

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RE[8]: Comment by kaiwai
by polaris20 on Fri 31st Dec 2010 19:08 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by kaiwai"
polaris20 Member since:
2005-07-06



There are some of us here, who would call ourselves "hackers". We like writing operating systems and applications. We are going to want a device that allows us to do that.


You're probably better off not buying an Android phone then either. Sounds like you'd be happier with Maemo or the like.

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RE[9]: Comment by kaiwai
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Fri 31st Dec 2010 22:21 in reply to "RE[8]: Comment by kaiwai"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Yeah, I'll admit I did compromise a bit on principle. Cost ( lack of subsidy from US carriers), Hardware ( restive screen, weak processor), and future of the platform ( one device only)? Kept me away. Android is the next best thing.


If Meego were to blow up, I'd switch when practical, but I'm not convinced it has a future either.

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