Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 3rd Jan 2011 20:27 UTC
Intel It's the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, so it's time for new stuff to spend your hard-earned cash on. This time around, Intel is making headlines by officially launching its Sandy Bridge line of processors, which, up until now, were totally next-generation.
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RE[2]: Comment by vivainio
by tyrione on Mon 3rd Jan 2011 22:59 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by vivainio"
tyrione
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2005-11-21

Intel's GMA HD, which replaced the GMA 4500M HD, was integrated in the CPU. The Intel HD Graphics 3000 goes a step further and is now directly on the die. This is the "tock" phase of Intel's "tick-tock" release schedule. In other words, it's an entirely new microarchitecture targeted at PCs. Speaking of which, I'm always stunned to find that people rely on Wikipedia as a primary source for information. I'm even more stunned when a Wikipedia article has more accurate information than an average person on a pretty common topic. For example: "A personal computer (PC) is any general-purpose computer whose size, capabilities, and original sales price make it useful for individuals, and which is intended to be operated directly by an end-user with no intervening computer operator." Desktops and laptops are just PCs, and yes, Apple sells a lot of PCs despite it's "Mac vs. PC" ads.


It's a catch up to AMD play.

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RE[3]: Comment by vivainio
by ciplogic on Mon 3rd Jan 2011 23:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by vivainio"
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2006-12-22

I think that even AMD will have something to suffer from it. AMD Bulldozer will have strong integer performance for threaded apps (almost unseen for now, excluding databases and virtualizations in my experience). Anyway, about integrated video card, is fairly enough good to not think on: "integrated intel graphics", even is not the "Crysis" CPU/GPU, is for certain the Win7 CPU. If you play any game that IE9/FF4/Flash will give, go video decoding, and so on, I think Intel still will be a winner. The last scarry thing, is that AMD with their quad double core module (aka 8 cores) will likely have lower frequencies per core, so they will be as Phenom was some years ago: a lot of cores, but bad performance in small threaded workloads. So for me Intel did at least halfly his job by byting lower end graphics, right now AMD hopefully will find the next marketing term of their CPUs to prevail.

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RE[4]: Comment by vivainio
by looncraz on Tue 4th Jan 2011 07:00 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by vivainio"
looncraz Member since:
2005-07-24

AMD has indicated that operating frequencies will be equal to & greater than currently available.

Top shelf should be nearing the 4GHz mark on Turbo at release. Speeds should step from there.

The x6 line of phenom II shows that AMD knows how to make it happen. The longer pipelines on the Bulldozer indicate a design more suited for higher clocks. I just hope we don't see a repeat of Intel's Pentium 4 mistake.. except made by AMD this time...

Doubtful, performance is claimed to be at least 12% faster per clock ( to match i7 clock-per-clock ). No figures for the clock capabilities, which is something that can really only be surmised until qualification production begins.

I think AMD's Bulldozer architecture is a brilliant move, but I fear the FPU performance may be below intel by too great a margin...

Oh well.. I'm rambling... or not.. I can't tell... me so tired...

--The loon

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