Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 3rd Jan 2011 23:19 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless You may not have noticed it, but in the past six months, we've been experiencing a true massacre. Not one written in blood, but one written in microchips and touchscreen displays. The scene of the crime? The United States. The perpetrator? Google's Android. The victims? Everybody else.
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RE: iPhone on Verizon
by mtzmtulivu on Tue 4th Jan 2011 02:35 UTC in reply to "iPhone on Verizon"
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2006-11-14


- I'm tired of the crapware that carriers are shoving into OTA stock ROMs, and the OEMs who are putting custom 'trinkets' on top that I don't want. And to get a custom ROM with just vanilla Android and WITHOUT all the crap, you have to wait for your device to get rooted, and then wade through a bunch of half-finished custom ROMs, where random features (such as wifi and GPS) don't work. I know a lot of people get off on this kind of thing and that's fine, but it's just not how I'd like to spend my free time. (Of course, the quality of custom ROMs probably depends on which phone you have, which is a problem in itself.



As for the ideological 'Steve controls everything', that's what jailbreaking is for ;) .


Inst there a little bit of irrational fanboyism here?

Dont you see an inconsistency in your statements? You are giving apple a pass on a stronghold they have on the device because you can root ios devices, but you are hard on android devices on the stronghold carries have when you can still root them too.


Of course, I'm not an Android hater and realize that it's infinitely more customizable, but rarely (if ever) do I use any of that stuff, such as the battery-draining widgets that most folks seem to be enthralled with. I've played with my dad's iPad and for the most part, I like the way it works out of the box, so there isn't much I'd want/need to change.


You most likely arent, but if you dont know, you are most likely high on what ever steve jobs dishes out and in his sales pitches you have an apologetic view of apple products and a critical view of their competitors and hence you will always have an opinion that apple products are always better.

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RE[2]: iPhone on Verizon
by mrhasbean on Tue 4th Jan 2011 02:43 in reply to "RE: iPhone on Verizon"
mrhasbean Member since:
2006-04-03

Inst there a little bit of irrational fanboyism here?

Dont you see an inconsistency in your statements? You are giving apple a pass on a stronghold they have on the device because you can root ios devices, but you are hard on android devices on the stronghold carries have when you can still root them too.

You most likely arent, but if you dont know, you are most likely high on what ever steve jobs dishes out and in his sales pitches you have an apologetic view of apple products and a critical view of their competitors and hence you will always have an opinion that apple products are always better.


You're totally missing the point of what he's saying - which seems to be par for the course when it comes to how people look at this argument.

He's saying "why should I have to root the device to be able to get functionality that it's already supposed to have according to Google's marketing?" - ie, Updates, as opposed to CHOOSING to root the device if you want to make it do things that aren't promised or supported by the OS's developer. There is a real and significant difference in there, just many choose to ignore it and lump them into the same boat, as you have.

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RE[3]: iPhone on Verizon
by WorknMan on Tue 4th Jan 2011 03:05 in reply to "RE[2]: iPhone on Verizon"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

He's saying "why should I have to root the device to be able to get functionality that it's already supposed to have according to Google's marketing?" - ie, Updates, as opposed to CHOOSING to root the device if you want to make it do things that aren't promised or supported by the OS's developer. There is a real and significant difference in there, just many choose to ignore it and lump them into the same boat, as you have.


Actually, you missed my point as well ;) It's not the rooting that bothers me, but the work involved just to get back to a vanilla base on most Android phones. It's like PC vendors that cell you a computer loaded down with bloatware, and then they don't give you the generic install disc so that you can reformat and start fresh.

With iOS, it comes vanilla, and then you jailbreak and add whatever you want on top of it; that's how I like to roll.

And for the record, I have never claimed (nor do I imagine I ever will) that iOS devices are better than Android, and vice versa. (And since I own an Android phone myself and own zero Apple products, it would be hard to label me as an Apple fanatic.) It really depends on who you are, and what you want.

Take my parents for example... they have an iPad and are already familiar with that interface. They like iTunes and are already on AT&T, as they live in an area where the service doesn't suck. I think even the most hardened Android fanboy would have a hard time making a case as to why they shouldn't buy an iPhone, which they're about to do in a few days when their contract is up for renewal.

Contrast that with a friend of mine, who hates iTunes and anything having to do with Apple, and loves to spend hours on end screwing with his phone. In his case, Android is a perfect fit. Not saying that you HAVE to spend hours screwing with an Android phone, but Android is a tinkerer's paradise ;)

Edited 2011-01-04 03:08 UTC

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RE[2]: iPhone on Verizon
by tetek on Tue 4th Jan 2011 08:39 in reply to "RE: iPhone on Verizon"
tetek Member since:
2010-10-04

And you don't have to root your Android phone to make it your "own" and have full control of it??

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