Linked by Razvan T. Coloja on Mon 3rd Jan 2011 23:30 UTC
BeOS & Derivatives To understand what the BeOS and Haiku operating systems are, we first must remember that BeOS was developed with the multimedia user in mind. BeOS wanted to be what OS X has become today: an easy to use, attractive operating system. However, BeOS was a niche OS, destined for the media-hungry user. The percentage of audio and video applications available for Haiku is greater than the one in Linux, OS X or Windows, and the inner workings of the operating system were created in such a way, that the same multimedia passionate would find it easy to work with the user interface and files. Each application can interfere with other applications of its kind. A WAVE file selection can be dragged from a sound editor and onto the desktop, to create an audio file. Audio applications can interfere with each other via the Haiku Media Kit -- the corespondent of a Linux sound server. Applications like Cortex are a perfect example of how BeOS and Haiku deal with multimedia files: you can have more than one soundcard and use each one of those soundcards independently or separately. You can link one soundcard to the Audio Mixer, start a drum machine application and link that software to the Audio Mixer. If you want to output whatever you create with the audio application, all you have to do is drag the microphone and link it to the application's icon in Cortex.
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RE[2]: The horse is dead
by toast88 on Tue 4th Jan 2011 21:39 UTC in reply to "RE: The horse is dead"
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"X) No multi-user

When was the last time you actually USED this on your desktop box?

I use that _all_ the time. The argument "I don't use it, so it isn't useful to anyone." was NEVER a valid argument!

A operating system which doesn't support multi-user in 2010 is useless. Period.

"X) No real existing application base

Chicken/egg. Not Haiku's failing.
Agreed. But when you're talking about changing the world you should somehow also be able to attract developers.

"X) The OS is barely used on the desktop

Chicken/egg. Not Haiku's failing.
Well, it currently lacks a lot of essential features and hardware support. So, yes, it's Haiku's problem!

"let alone the fact that there this thing is not running on any mobile platform in any capacity

Nor is Windows NT.
So are Linux and MacOS!

"X) It has no server functionality

Nothing "and". Any modern operating system nowadays has server capabilities. Again, the argument "I don't use it so the rest of the world won't need it either" is not a valid argument. That's just stupid. Don't tell other people what they need and should do.

"X) Its limited to the Desktop only currently

Which reduces the possible user base and, thus, reduces the amount of applications developed for it.

Seriously. I see that Haiku is really a nice project and I actually already knew BeOS from release 3.1 (I once ordered a LiveCD from Be back in 1998 to test it). But it lacks so many essential features and applications that it won't be any serious competitor in near future.

All these claims that it's so superior when it comes to multimedia over Linux, MacOS and Windows might have been true for 1998, but not for 2010. Seriously.


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RE[3]: The horse is dead
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 4th Jan 2011 21:47 in reply to "RE[2]: The horse is dead"
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I use that _all_ the time.

Humour me. In what way?

The argument "I don't use it, so it isn't useful to anyone." was NEVER a valid argument!

The argument "I use it, so it is useful to everyone" was NEVER a valid argument!

operating system which doesn't support multi-user in 2010 is useless. Period.

Yet another person who parrots the party line without actually providing any reasoning as to WHY this is supposedly the case. I used to be in your camp, but over the years, my position has shifted. Nobody truly USES multiuser on their machines, since at least where I live, if you're old enough to need your own computer, you just GET YOUR OWN COMPUTER. This is further validated by Microsoft's data (still looking for that damn link).

As computers are moving towards unique devices, instead of shared ones, the additional overhead and complexity multiuser adds becomes a burden, not a necessity or even a blessing. Security can be achieved in other, less intrusive and less taxing ways.

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