Linked by Hadrien Grasland on Sun 9th Jan 2011 12:39 UTC, submitted by RichterKuato
Graphics, User Interfaces "GIMP 2.8 has been talked about for more than a year and back in January there was a GIMP 2.8 release schedule by Martin Nordholts that had set the final release for the 27th of December. That date has now passed and, sadly, this major update to this leading open-source graphics program is still not close to being released."
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What is wrong with The Gimp?
by reduz on Sun 9th Jan 2011 15:54 UTC
reduz
Member since:
2006-02-25

In 10 years, the amount of improvement in Gimp has been extremely little. Compared to other succesful open source apps like Blender, I really start to wonder if the problem of it is lack of management or just little interest by the main developers.

I just can't understand why no gimp developers are sponsored to work by a foundation, or even go into donation campaings, specially given how Photoshop is considered to be the most important application lacking under open source OSs and gimp is the most mature graphics editing package.

It's like the authors just don't care, or the codebase is way too bloated/horrible to work or something, wish I knew!

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bert64 Member since:
2007-04-23

The trouble with gimp is actually piracy of photoshop...

Photoshop is seen as the tool to have by anyone doing any kind if (often trivial) graphics manipulation, as such there are thousands of people using photoshop who really have no need to, and most of them are using pirated copies because their needs do not justify the cost of actually buying photoshop.

Most photoshop users could actually do everything they need with gimp, and the extra users would serve to spur gimp development forwards.

The best thing for gimp right now, would be for adobe to clamp down on piracy.

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sj87 Member since:
2007-12-16

The trouble with gimp is actually piracy of photoshop...

Photoshop is seen as the tool to have by anyone doing any kind if (often trivial) graphics manipulation, as such there are thousands of people using photoshop who really have no need to, and most of them are using pirated copies because their needs do not justify the cost of actually buying photoshop.

Was I a Windows user, I would choose Paint.NET (Paint Dot Net) as my graphics tool instead of Gimp.

But no, I'm a Linux user. I mainly use Gimp but am looking forward to see Krita - KDE's answer to Gimp - take the needed steps forward to become a usable tool.

Gimp's UI is cluttered and I don't feel comfortable using it. They fiddled with it for the 2.6 release and it got just worse.

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fithisux Member since:
2006-01-22

The trouble with gimp is actually piracy of photoshop....


I have never used photoshop, Really never. I have used Gimp/Inksacep/Dia and OODraw and everything fitted my purposes. For hardcore Image Processing I use ImageJ and Price.app . I managed to survive the last 8 years without photoshop. And for me Gimp has been improving performancewise very very fast. I still would like a TCL/TK gfx program wrapping around the amazing work done in ImageMagick. Otherwise I am completely satisfied with this open source product.

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prokoudine Member since:
2005-08-09

The way I see it there are two major reasons why even big projects (GIMP is not the only one) don't have many dedicated contributors.

1. Projects don't communicate what's happening to their user bases.

2. Users tend to take, not give.

The first one is now being addressed by GIMP team, the second is in the hands of community.

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ssokolow Member since:
2010-01-21

From my experience and the experience of those I've talked to, there IS some element of arrogance and hubris in the mix.

For example, when I posted a polite feature request asking for a checkbox to restore the GIMP 2.4 behaviour regarding floating and unfloating selections (because I use it heavily and the new behaviour requires a menu click or a key combo that requires two hands when RightCtrl = Compose), they called me rude and marked it RESO INVALID.

The people I've talked to have described the project managers, politely, as "difficult to work with".

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

I'll second that.

Someone politely explained in a thread how the term "The Gimp" is a derogatory term in the US and the project managers threw a hissy fit over the mere suggestion of changing the name.

God forbid such a classy name like "The Gimp" be changed. Who knows how many US donations they would have received otherwise.

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Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24

From what it seems it's pretty much due to a very low number of developers. From this :http://libregraphicsworld.org/news.php?readmore=667

we learn that there are 3 core developers, one of which have been busy with other things since spring 2010. Given the insanely low amount of developers for such a huge piece of software I'm amazed at how much they've actually been able to do. From what I've read there something around 20 developers working on Phothoshop, full-time, handpicked for their expertize.

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holivega Member since:
2009-10-14

A donation campaign is a good idea!

If they did, I would definitely give them some money!

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prokoudine Member since:
2005-08-09

A donation campaign is a good idea!

If they did, I would definitely give them some money!

Donations never stopped being gratefully accepted.

http://www.gimp.org/donating/

Edited 2011-01-09 18:32 UTC

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