Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 10th Jan 2011 17:01 UTC
Windows Since the big Windows news last week was the announcement that the next version of Windows will run on ARM, this one kind of slipped in under the radar. It's a rumour, but confirmed by different people: there will be a new application model in Windows 8, currently named Jupiter, while thee will also be a tile-based interface for tablets. It seems like the pieces of the puzzle are all falling into place: Windows NT everywhere, Silverlight/.Net everywhere.
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RE: Agreed
by jabjoe on Tue 11th Jan 2011 15:06 UTC in reply to "Agreed"
jabjoe
Member since:
2009-05-06

"Partially done" is the key as far as MS are concerned.

.NET on anything other then Windows is a repeat of Win32 and WISE (A Unix Win32 layer).

"the WIN32 layer to be fairly mediocre in performance and feature coverage. We want it to be just good/cheap/timely enough to get a lot of people to use it,"

http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/07/18/analysis_how_ms_used/


MS are smart, and know that controlling the API is key. Controlling the language as well is even better. Maybe fine for their platform, but it is always their platform and never cross platform.

Perhaps one day we will have regulations about companies that make OS and software for that OS, you know, such as one side has to be open for fair competition, or a single company can't do both.

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RE[2]: Agreed
by TBPrince on Tue 11th Jan 2011 19:16 in reply to "RE: Agreed"
TBPrince Member since:
2005-07-06

Defending their platforms is top priority but the problem is that cannot last forever and it only works as long as your platform is market leader.

Which is the case for PCs but not the case for mobile and consoles, while on the server side they're growing but not yet a monopoly like on PCs.

The problem is PCs market is basically a 1billion items market (more or less) while mobile market is about 5 billions items market. You'd want to be a monopoly on mobile rather than on PCs in 2-3 years plus they once had Windows as a gaming machine while now they also have Xbox.

There's a turning point where defending your platform by making it available everywhere is more effective than having a single way to channel it. I think MS is close to that turning point.

The goal would always be to defend their platform but it would happen by letting developers code for it anyway and let users choose what's the best machine to run it.

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RE[3]: Agreed
by jabjoe on Tue 11th Jan 2011 19:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Agreed"
jabjoe Member since:
2009-05-06

I'm sure the same thing was said during the WISE era. Their implimentation of their platform will always be >the< implimentaiton of their platform. All others will always be playing catch up, not knowing what is coming next and in the dark about fine details (no spec/doc is perfect, so you need source or lots of time to ape the actural behaviour). They own the board, the ball, the gaming hall, the chairs and they write the rules. The house always win. (In the worse case, they own the magnets hidden beneath the table). They aren't interested in a fair game or a service, they are interested in money. They are a company, not a community. At best they try to appear as a community as much as required to make more money. What makes money and what provides a good service don't always line up (example: anti-features).

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