Linked by Hadrien Grasland on Sat 15th Jan 2011 18:02 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces As an answer to someone asking whether Unity will require a working OpenGL stack to operate in Ubuntu 11.04 "Natty Narwhal", Mark Shuttleworth announced that Canonical would offer an optional, QT-based, "2D" implementation of Unity. Here is a video, too.
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RE: WTF?!?
by vivainio on Sat 15th Jan 2011 19:09 UTC in reply to "WTF?!?"
vivainio
Member since:
2008-12-26


So am I the only one who thinks having a dependency on the QT monster AND freaking QT JavaScript is a good idea for a Gnome/GTK desktop?


Perhaps Ubuntu won't be a "Gnome/GTK desktop" forever? Just saying.

It is a good idea if it helps Ubuntu make a compelling experience with less work. People who object to it are free to run other stuff. Or get a job and buy a computer with more than 256megs of ram.

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v RE[2]: WTF?!?
by Hiev on Sat 15th Jan 2011 19:18 in reply to "RE: WTF?!?"
RE[3]: WTF?!?
by vivainio on Sat 15th Jan 2011 19:22 in reply to "RE[2]: WTF?!?"
vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26


That's KDE fans wet dream, but I don't think it will happen, just saying.


Well, it already started. We will see how the situation evolves.

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RE[3]: WTF?!?
by Nth_Man on Sat 15th Jan 2011 20:29 in reply to "RE[2]: WTF?!?"
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2010-05-16
RE[3]: WTF?!?
by cdude on Sun 16th Jan 2011 15:52 in reply to "RE[2]: WTF?!?"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

It already happened. Ubuntu won't go GNOME 3 but will go Unity which happens to be based on OpenGL and Qt. GNOME is irrelevant now.

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RE[3]: WTF?!?
by segedunum on Mon 17th Jan 2011 15:22 in reply to "RE[2]: WTF?!?"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

That's KDE fans wet dream, but I don't think it will happen, just saying.

It's already happening. Ubuntu at one time would never have went anywhere near Qt, and yet, here they are replicating their entire interface in it......for 2D.

They will either end up having to build a whole desktop in Qt or reusing what's already on offer (KDE), but they'll be dragged kicking and screaming into doing it and Canonical might well have gone bust by then.

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RE[2]: WTF?!?
by WereCatf on Sat 15th Jan 2011 19:30 in reply to "RE: WTF?!?"
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2006-02-15

Or get a job and buy a computer with more than 256megs of ram.

That's a very arrogant and ignorant thing to say and quite clearly shows how much thought you put behind the whole thing..

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RE[3]: WTF?!?
by vivainio on Sat 15th Jan 2011 19:39 in reply to "RE[2]: WTF?!?"
vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26


That's a very arrogant and ignorant thing to say and quite clearly shows how much thought you put behind the whole thing..


Care to elaborate how it's either arrogant or ignorant?

It's a fact of life that having ~ 20 megs more libraries mapped in virtual memory only hurts people who have way too little ram. It is not a concern in desktop/laptop/netbook form factor, and even the crummiest ubuntu-capable tablets will probably match the requirement as well. Catering to that crowd is not in the best interest of Canonical, those are well served by ligthweight window managers like fluxbox.

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RE[3]: WTF?!?
by nt_jerkface on Sun 16th Jan 2011 06:39 in reply to "RE[2]: WTF?!?"
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2009-08-26

Ignorant of what? Do you realize how cheap old hardware goes for on ebay? I found a replacement pentium-m cpu for a laptop from 2005 for 5 dollars + 2 for shipping.

256mb does not cut it anymore, have a look at how much a modern browser uses with just a couple tabs open.

Modern operating systems should require at least 512mb for installation.

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RE[3]: WTF?!?
by segedunum on Mon 17th Jan 2011 16:43 in reply to "RE[2]: WTF?!?"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

That's a very arrogant and ignorant thing to say and quite clearly shows how much thought you put behind the whole thing..

He's right. As soon as people do something that moves software on and makes it do more you get some ignoramous complaining how it won't work on his machine from over ten years ago with 64MB of memory.

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RE[2]: WTF?!?
by Mellin on Sat 15th Jan 2011 23:28 in reply to "RE: WTF?!?"
Mellin Member since:
2005-07-06

and pay the microsoft tax and get a windows 7 PC


you can only get windows pcs or macs in sweden if you go the the big stores and middle size stores

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RE[3]: WTF?!?
by woegjiub on Sun 16th Jan 2011 04:16 in reply to "RE[2]: WTF?!?"
woegjiub Member since:
2008-11-25

Online stores, and roll-your own PCs.
Buying prebuilt is just plain stupid, IMO.

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