Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 18th Jan 2011 22:18 UTC, submitted by alinandrei
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu De kogel is door de kerk. After years of focussing entirely on Gtk+ and GNOME, Ubuntu will finally start evaluating Qt applications for inclusion in the defaukt Ubuntu installation. Mark Shuttleworth announced the policy change on his blog today.
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RE[6]: Talk about arrogance
by lemur2 on Wed 19th Jan 2011 00:23 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Talk about arrogance"
lemur2
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2007-02-17

KDE desktops have pretty good support for GTK applications, including settings. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK-Qt If Shuttleworth wants to integrate Qt and GTK applications on the one desktop, which is a perfectly reasonable aspiration, why not just use what already works? That would mean having KDE as the default desktop instead of GNOME, thus that is absolutely of no help here.


I'd like to find out why. Plasma is after all very "programmable" and configurable, and could probably be shipped in such a way as to look and behave almost exactly like the GNOME desktop you are used to.

Such a GNOME-mimicking KDE desktop would possibly be more like GNOME now than GNOME 3 and/or Unity desktop would be.

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RE[7]: Talk about arrogance
by WereCatf on Wed 19th Jan 2011 00:31 in reply to "RE[6]: Talk about arrogance"
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2006-02-15

I'd like to find out why. Plasma is after all very "programmable" and configurable, and could probably be shipped in such a way as to look and behave almost exactly like the GNOME desktop you are used to.

That would be way more work than just implementing support for dconf. And it would require LOTS of work for everything to work like on GNOME.

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RE[8]: Talk about arrogance
by lemur2 on Wed 19th Jan 2011 01:09 in reply to "RE[7]: Talk about arrogance"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"I'd like to find out why. Plasma is after all very "programmable" and configurable, and could probably be shipped in such a way as to look and behave almost exactly like the GNOME desktop you are used to.
That would be way more work than just implementing support for dconf. And it would require LOTS of work for everything to work like on GNOME. "

How so? Desktop looks and feel is mostly just a set of settings, themes and widgets after all.

As Aaron Seigo points out:
http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2011/01/qt-acceptance-growing-next-colab...
KDE settings and KDE desktop have already gone to extensive lengths to support GTK applications. GNOME has done absolutely nothing to support Qt or KDE applications. There is far less work it seems to me in making a KDE desktop look and behave like the current GNOME desktop than there is involved in making all Qt applications change their code to look at dconf settings.

Why can't the GNOME world bend a little, just for once? After all, it is the nice suite of Qt-based best-of-breed desktop applications that the GNOME world is after here.

Edited 2011-01-19 01:17 UTC

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RE[8]: Talk about arrogance
by aunzim on Thu 20th Jan 2011 20:53 in reply to "RE[7]: Talk about arrogance"
aunzim Member since:
2008-07-25

You would be surprised, KDE made netbook desktop in about 6 months. That's why plasma exists in the first place to be easy and fast to do any type of desktop, mobile, netbook, etc.

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