Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 18th Jan 2011 22:18 UTC, submitted by alinandrei
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu De kogel is door de kerk. After years of focussing entirely on Gtk+ and GNOME, Ubuntu will finally start evaluating Qt applications for inclusion in the defaukt Ubuntu installation. Mark Shuttleworth announced the policy change on his blog today.
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RE[8]: Talk about arrogance
by lemur2 on Wed 19th Jan 2011 01:09 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: Talk about arrogance"
lemur2
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2007-02-17

"I'd like to find out why. Plasma is after all very "programmable" and configurable, and could probably be shipped in such a way as to look and behave almost exactly like the GNOME desktop you are used to.
That would be way more work than just implementing support for dconf. And it would require LOTS of work for everything to work like on GNOME. "

How so? Desktop looks and feel is mostly just a set of settings, themes and widgets after all.

As Aaron Seigo points out:
http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2011/01/qt-acceptance-growing-next-colab...
KDE settings and KDE desktop have already gone to extensive lengths to support GTK applications. GNOME has done absolutely nothing to support Qt or KDE applications. There is far less work it seems to me in making a KDE desktop look and behave like the current GNOME desktop than there is involved in making all Qt applications change their code to look at dconf settings.

Why can't the GNOME world bend a little, just for once? After all, it is the nice suite of Qt-based best-of-breed desktop applications that the GNOME world is after here.

Edited 2011-01-19 01:17 UTC

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RE[9]: Talk about arrogance
by WereCatf on Wed 19th Jan 2011 01:32 in reply to "RE[8]: Talk about arrogance"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

KDE desktop look and behave like the current GNOME desktop

A desktop environment is much more than just a set of widgets and themes.

Why can't the GNOME world bend a little, just for once?

Don't generalize; this is about Ubuntu, not the whole "GNOME world."

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RE[10]: Talk about arrogance
by lemur2 on Wed 19th Jan 2011 02:04 in reply to "RE[9]: Talk about arrogance"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"KDE desktop look and behave like the current GNOME desktop

A desktop environment is much more than just a set of widgets and themes.
"

True. There is also, for example, all of the stuff from freedesktop.org implemented in KDE as well:
http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2011/01/qt-acceptance-growing-next-colab...
"We've done a lot of work to make Qt and KDE apps work well on all sorts of platforms. This has taken the form of Qt Platform Plugins, porting Oxygen to other platforms, dialog button awareness, Qt's NetworkAccessManager and much more. Part of the "much more" has also been standardization, of the "weak" sort where it's more about conventions and sharing than strict ISO/ECMA-style standardization, of tools and protocols in use, often aided by freedesktop.org."

" Why can't the GNOME world bend a little, just for once?

Don't generalize; this is about Ubuntu, not the whole "GNOME world."
"

This doesn't answer the question.

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RE[10]: Talk about arrogance
by lopisaur on Wed 19th Jan 2011 17:47 in reply to "RE[9]: Talk about arrogance"
lopisaur Member since:
2006-02-27

And don't forget that GNOME per-se is no longer going to be the default for Ubuntu, that will be Wayland. When that announcement came, I already started looking for an alternative distro for my PCs. Right now I am running Fedora 14 on a test machine and am pretty happy with it. Ubuntu will be replaced on the production machines either with Fedora or, if I just can't get used to rpm, good old Debian (with GNOME!).

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