Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 18th Jan 2011 22:18 UTC, submitted by alinandrei
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu De kogel is door de kerk. After years of focussing entirely on Gtk+ and GNOME, Ubuntu will finally start evaluating Qt applications for inclusion in the defaukt Ubuntu installation. Mark Shuttleworth announced the policy change on his blog today.
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RE: Talk about arrogance
by benhonghu on Wed 19th Jan 2011 02:25 UTC in reply to "Talk about arrogance"
benhonghu
Member since:
2008-08-24

Collaboration is needed. Not shoehorning your methods into someone else's toolkit.


The beauty of open source development is it's largely an evolution rather than design. For it to work people need to let go of the notion that there's only one good way of doing things. We need to let people do what they think is the best to do, encourage them to do different thing.

So let Shuttleworth do his thing to Ubuntu. If you don't like it, you have 9071431 other distributions to choose from, pick the one you like.

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RE[2]: Talk about arrogance
by lemur2 on Wed 19th Jan 2011 02:48 in reply to "RE: Talk about arrogance"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

So let Shuttleworth do his thing to Ubuntu.


Sure. Go ahead. Whatever. Away you go, and write a set of interface binding for Qt apps to be able to query dconf. Fill your boots.

Just don't expect authors of Qt programs to re-write all their applications (to call those bindings) just to satisfy the Ubuntu desktop.

As this thread title says ... talk about arrogance! Sheesh.

PS: I have an alternative proposal for Ubuntu ... re-write dconf for Ubuntu to set not only the dconf database but also to make synchronous, sympathetic changes to Qsettings. Integrate Qt applications without requiring any re-write by authors of said qt applications.

Edited 2011-01-19 02:55 UTC

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RE[3]: Talk about arrogance
by Hiev on Wed 19th Jan 2011 03:08 in reply to "RE[2]: Talk about arrogance"
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

Dude, are you even a developer? I mean, a real one?
if so, what do you do and in what languaje?

Just asking.

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RE[3]: Talk about arrogance
by asdf on Wed 19th Jan 2011 09:43 in reply to "RE[2]: Talk about arrogance"
asdf Member since:
2009-09-23

PS: I have an alternative proposal for Ubuntu ... re-write dconf for Ubuntu to set not only the dconf database but also to make synchronous, sympathetic changes to Qsettings. Integrate Qt applications without requiring any re-write by authors of said qt applications.


Because that's an outright stupid and horrible idea. What next? A configuration merge engine which asks the user in toolkit-independent manner how differences in two supposedly simultaneously managed config backends should be merged?

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RE[2]: Talk about arrogance
by phoenix on Fri 21st Jan 2011 19:59 in reply to "RE: Talk about arrogance"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

The beauty of open source development is it's largely an evolution rather than design.


The biggest problem with open-source development is that it's largely evolution rather than design.

For it to work people need to let go of the notion that there's only one good way of doing things. We need to let people do what they think is the best to do, encourage them to do different thing.


Which is fine, so long as there is a vision of what the end product should look like. Re-doing things every 6 months because it doesn't work is no way to run a software project. There needs to be some kind of framework, plan, whatever, and not just "try X; fail; try Y; fail; Try Z; mostly works; Try Q; almost works; try A; works; try B; works better" ad nauseum.

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