Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 19th Jan 2011 22:04 UTC
Xfce When we reported on the release of Xfce 4.8, we ignored a statement inside the release announcement about the lack of new features coming to the BSD world. The statement was a bit disconnected from the rest of the press release, but Xfce developer Jannis Pohlmann has published a blog post giving a few more details about the issue.
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Real BSD users use WindowMaker...
by ruinevil on Thu 20th Jan 2011 01:54 UTC
ruinevil
Member since:
2009-01-08

Seriously though, most BSD users go with a full service desktop like KDE/GNOME or superminimalist with WindowMaker/dwm. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter that GNOME-lite (XFCE) doesn't support them.

BSD users prefer looking at terminals/consoles anyways; they barely interact with the desktop.

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vermaden Member since:
2006-11-18

So I am not a real BSD user cause I use Openbox ...

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Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

Seriously though, most BSD users go with a full service desktop like KDE/GNOME or superminimalist with WindowMaker/dwm.


Erm, excuse me... WindowMaker... superminimalist?

Ha! Haha! Ha! Haha! Haha! (insert Mandark laugh here)

I think you have an opinion about WindowMaker that needs some revision. If you would call any classic tiling window manager to be superminimalistic, well, I would fully agree. Fluxbox superminimalistic? Maybe not super, but yes. Or fvwm2, olvwm. Superminimalistic would be something like twm, but... WindowMaker? No, definitely not.

As a user of WindowMaker (many years now on my primary desktop) I am traditionally laughed at for using such an inconvenient, bloated, overloaded and unconfigurable piece of software. :-)

In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter that GNOME-lite (XFCE) doesn't support them.


Please see the currently correct captioning: While XFCE (all caps) usually refers to XFCE version 3 (using "classic" Gtk, being fully portable, being lightweight, efficient, usable and easily configurable), the version 4 is called Xfce now.

And I have to admit in conclusion: I'm not fully sure if the caps in "WindowMaker" are currently the correct choice. Sometimes, such simple things change.

Your classification of Xfce (4) as "Gnome-lite" is fully currect in my opinion. So the predicate "lightweight" is already lost. :-) But okay, on the other hand, we're not talking about window managers, but about full desktop environments where the predicate "lightweight" may apply to Xfce.

BSD users prefer looking at terminals/consoles anyways; they barely interact with the desktop.


Again, I don't know where you take this opinion from. Let me emphasize that most BSD users *I* do know don't look at consoles. Most of them prefer a versatile and fast window manager, not just for terminal windows, but for everything else. Among them, there are several "power users" who prefer doing their work & fun on KDE and Gnome desktops. Of course, those are *my* individual observations which do not claim to be applicable to everyone and everything.

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

Most BSD admins probably use Win7 and ssh.

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vermaden Member since:
2006-11-18

That statement is as accurate as this one below.

Most Linux admins probably use Win7 and ssh.

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rycamor Member since:
2005-07-18

Seriously though, most BSD users go with a full service desktop like KDE/GNOME or superminimalist with WindowMaker/dwm.


I tend to use Windowmaker, but install many of the KDE tools, so at whatever point I need any of the HAL-connected features (or KDE's awesome virtual filesystem), I just pull up Konqueror or Kate, but other than that, I like my desktop to stay out of the way.

- Using BSD since 1999; using BSD as a desktop since 2003.

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