Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 18th Jan 2011 22:18 UTC, submitted by alinandrei
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu De kogel is door de kerk. After years of focussing entirely on Gtk+ and GNOME, Ubuntu will finally start evaluating Qt applications for inclusion in the defaukt Ubuntu installation. Mark Shuttleworth announced the policy change on his blog today.
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nt_jerkface
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2009-08-26

So that is how you measure worthiness in "Linuxland"? That shouldn't be an obligation.


It's just an observation. Oracle gets bashed and derided for building off RHEL even though they contribute btrfs and yet Ubuntu gets a free pass and contributes nothing.

So what? It's not on the front page. Anyone that's interested can find out for themselves.

It says a lot about his true intentions. He wants to disassociate Linux from Ubuntu in the public's mind.

I don't really care but I'm surprised by how many in Linuxland are on board with him. If Ubuntu ever got anywhere with the public he would no doubt push some type of application lock-in. He would probably go the Google route of using a non-standard (but open source) API to discourage porting.

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ple_mono Member since:
2005-07-26

It's just an observation. Oracle gets bashed and derided for building off RHEL even though they contribute btrfs and yet Ubuntu gets a free pass and contributes nothing.

Fair enough. But in my mind oracle shouldn't have been bashed for that either.

It says a lot about his true intentions. He wants to disassociate Linux from Ubuntu in the public's mind.

Yes, you may be right. But here's food for thought: what if that is what is needed for linux to actually grow on the "average user". You can't argue with the stamp (many) people put on linux users today. But if you sneak in the backdoor, maybe they don't notice how nice it is until they are already using linux. See? Maybe he's doing it, intentionally, for a good purpose. But then again, maybe i'm too blue eyed.

I don't really care but I'm surprised by how many in Linuxland are on board with him. If Ubuntu ever got anywhere with the public he would no doubt push some type of application lock-in. He would probably go the Google route of using a non-standard (but open source) API to discourage porting.

Perhaps. But, he's obviously trying to go his own way, and that annoys people to no end. What's wrong with coming up with something more popular than the "upstream" product (especially if upstream refuses to even consider to merge it in), if people genuinely like it better?

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

But here's food for thought: what if that is what is needed for linux to actually grow on the "average user".


Sure but how much time is he going to be given to attract average users? Linux desktop share hasn't changed since he showed up. Ubuntu has just become the de facto Gnome distro, Linux desktop share wouldn't drop if Ubuntu disappeared.

You can't argue with the stamp (many) people put on linux users today. But if you sneak in the backdoor, maybe they don't notice how nice it is until they are already using linux.


Shuttleworth has tried the Mac junior approach and it hasn't worked. If Linux is going to remain a niche desktop then you might as well go with the distro that is honest and not wrapped in marketing. I think Linux Mint is a better name anyways.

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