Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 27th Jan 2011 22:28 UTC
Legal "Sony has won its request for a temporary restraining order in its PS3 jailbreak case against Geohot and fail0verflow, despite a jurisdictional technicality. At the same time, the judge at the US District Court for the Northern District of California has allowed Sony to keep the lawsuit in San Francisco. The restraining order forbids the jailbreak team from distributing or linking the jailbreak procedure, or encouraging others to jailbreak or hack their PS3 or PSN. They've also been ordered to turn over any computers or storage media used to create the jailbreak to Sony's lawyers." Land of the free fail.
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RE: Wiat, what?!
by umccullough on Fri 28th Jan 2011 00:07 UTC in reply to "Wiat, what?!"
umccullough
Member since:
2006-01-26

What is the worst thing that will happen to me, I'll void my warranty? Why should the punishment be any greater for hacking "your own" PS3 and maybe also telling others how to do it? Forgive my language, but if the US gov't and Sony are reading this: f--k you!


If you programmed your washing machine to play DVDs with Linux while doing the laundry - then you'd be violating the DMCA, and they'd come after you...

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RE[2]: Wiat, what?!
by stabbyjones on Fri 28th Jan 2011 00:13 in reply to "RE: Wiat, what?!"
stabbyjones Member since:
2008-04-15

but he didn't bypass any locks or protections on his washing machine so he hasn't violated the DMCA

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RE[3]: Wiat, what?!
by umccullough on Fri 28th Jan 2011 01:04 in reply to "RE[2]: Wiat, what?!"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

but he didn't bypass any locks or protections on his washing machine so he hasn't violated the DMCA


And yet, playing legally-purchased DVDs with non-licensed playback software is by definition a violation.

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RE[2]: Wiat, what?!
by brewmastre on Fri 28th Jan 2011 00:26 in reply to "RE: Wiat, what?!"
brewmastre Member since:
2006-08-01

If you programmed your washing machine to play DVDs with Linux while doing the laundry - then you'd be violating the DMCA, and they'd come after you...


Well at least I'd be entertained while I waited for the load to finish ;)

Edited 2011-01-28 00:26 UTC

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RE[2]: Wiat, what?!
by lemur2 on Fri 28th Jan 2011 00:42 in reply to "RE: Wiat, what?!"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

If you programmed your washing machine to play DVDs with Linux while doing the laundry - then you'd be violating the DMCA, and they'd come after you...


Two problems ... DVDs are meant to be played, and when you purchase a DVD, you purchase a license to play it. How does using Linux to play the DVD (which you are licensed to do after all, since you bought the DVD) violate DMCA?

As for the person who programmed the libdvdcss library that allows Linux to play the DVD, that person does not come under US jurisdiction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VideoLAN
The project began as a student endeavor at École Centrale Paris (France)


Finally, getting back to the actual topic, AFAIK what GeoHot did does not allow anyone to pirate PS3 games. All it does is re-allow the "Other OS" option that Sony had originally provided anyway. If that is the case, how is there any breach of "circumvention"?

Edited 2011-01-28 00:46 UTC

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RE[3]: Wiat, what?!
by brewmastre on Fri 28th Jan 2011 01:03 in reply to "RE[2]: Wiat, what?!"
brewmastre Member since:
2006-08-01

Two problems ... DVDs are meant to be played, and when you purchase a DVD, you purchase a license to play it. How does using Linux to play the DVD (which you are licensed to do after all, since you bought the DVD) violate DMCA?


Actually, I think you're just buying the content. In order to "purchase" the license to play it, you must buy a DVD player (which already has the license fee built-in).

Finally, getting back to the actual topic, AFAIK what GeoHot did does not allow anyone to pirate PS3 games. All it does is re-allow the "Other OS" option that Sony had originally provided anyway. If that is the case, how is there any breach of "circumvention"?


What he did is find the private key that allows code to appear trusted to the device.

Again, I agree that this may be against the accepted use policy, but seriously, should it be considered illegal? I don't think so...no more than my bitchin' V8 powered, DVD playin' washing machine ;)

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RE[3]: Wiat, what?!
by viton on Fri 28th Jan 2011 09:11 in reply to "RE[2]: Wiat, what?!"
viton Member since:
2005-08-09

All it does is re-allow the "Other OS" option that Sony had originally provided anyway.

Actually no. GeoHot released master keys for executables signing while fail0verflow did not.

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