Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 31st Jan 2011 15:32 UTC
Multimedia, AV Francis Ford Coppola is one of the most prestigious and critically acclaimed directors in cinematographic history. He directed, among others, the Godfather trilogy and Apocalypse Now, and has won so many awards it's hard to keep track. In an interview with 99%, he touched on the subject of art and making money, and his musings are fascinating, and yet another indication that the times are changing in the content industry. "Who says artists have to make money?" Coppola wonders.
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by lucas_maximus on Mon 31st Jan 2011 17:40 UTC in reply to "RE: ..."
lucas_maximus
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Take a self stacker in a super market ... any able body person can do their job. It is simple, thus the pay is low.

Myself I am a web developer ... not as many people can do this job so I get paid a lot better.

Not many people are bright enough or work hard enough to become a doctor so they get paid more than me.

And only a few people in the world can be Micheal Jackson, Jimmy Hendrix, Dio etc etc. So they get/got paid lots ... because they bring something that people like that no-one else can ...

That is why they get paid more, because they bring something of value that no-one else can.

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by fretinator on Mon 31st Jan 2011 19:01 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
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That is why they get paid more, because they bring something of value that no-one else can.


I think you are begging the question. The point is that there are probably 1000's of people who can do what they did, but there is no way to make it through the producer/marketing/industry machinery. The internet cuts out all of the promo folks that "build stars" for profit.

Most of these "idols" are really mass-marketed. There are oftens thousands of more talented people who can't make it through to us.

If the content industry has its way, it will remain that way. Otherwise they have to get real jobs.

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by Bounty on Mon 31st Jan 2011 20:01 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
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2006-09-18

"That is why they get paid more, because they bring something of value that no-one else can.


I think you are begging the question. The point is that there are probably 1000's of people who can do what they did, but there is no way to make it through the producer/marketing/industry machinery. The internet cuts out all of the promo folks that "build stars" for profit.

Most of these "idols" are really mass-marketed. There are oftens thousands of more talented people who can't make it through to us.

If the content industry has its way, it will remain that way. Otherwise they have to get real jobs.
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You bring up an interesting point about marketing. The problem is, it's an investment. It generally works exactly like an investment should. Why would you invest in someone not talented, all things being equal? I hate many things in the mass media, but that's just me. It's called mass media for a reason, lots of other people with bad taste like it.

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by lucas_maximus on Mon 31st Jan 2011 23:43 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
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The point is that there are probably 1000's of people who can do what they did, but there is no way to make it through the producer/marketing/industry machinery.


Well obviously the artists that I highlighted obviously did get through the system ... why did they make it through and not others .... is it because they were substantially different or did it better or was there at the right place at the right time?

There are plenty of people now that can do the moon walk and sing thriller but Micheal Jackson did it first.

The internet cuts out all of the promo folks that "build stars" for profit.


You've never seen X-factor over in the U.K. then. It is a machine for promoting and selling pop music.

Most of these "idols" are really mass-marketed. There are oftens thousands of more talented people who can't make it through to us.


Yes I agree but most people seem to like it and it you produce something people like and are willing to pay for you should be compensated.

The thing is that people like Simon Cowell (basically owns pop music in the U.K.) has got this stuff down to an exact science. He gets paid a lot of money because he managed to figure that out and exploit it.

I don't see any problem with that he produces something that the majority of people want to see and he makes money off of it ... lots of it ... but that is how any business works.

If the content industry has its way, it will remain that way. Otherwise they have to get real jobs.


Most people like what I call "shit", that is the way it is. It is never going to change ... intelligent people will always hate mass media, music and television ... and there are those artists that will cater for them. They cater for people like me and that is how they make money.

i.e. I love action 80s action flicks, Rambo, Predator etc ... I don't like a lot of new action movies because they don't cater for me. Stallone created The Expendibles ... it was aimed at guys who like the VHS era action heroe, like me and it showed when I went to the Cinema.

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by unclefester on Tue 1st Feb 2011 02:54 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
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2007-01-13

The greatest musicians of all time - the Baroque classical composers were all lowly paid servants.

Doctors are only highly paid in English-speaking western countries. In communist countries 80% of doctors were female because it was a very lowly paid low-status profession. In many African countries a doctor would be lucky to earn $100/week

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