Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 9th Feb 2011 00:04 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Speaking of Nokia - Engadget got their hands on what is supposedly an internal memo sent to Nokia employees by the company's new CEO. It's... Brutal. As in, brutally honest. There's no sugar-coating here, no unicorns, no glitter. "Nokia, our platform is burning." Update: Android is probably out of the question. Will it be Windows Phone 7, after all? Damn; Palm tonight, Nokia Friday - what a week for mobile! Update: The "Communities Dominate Brands" blog published an in-depth analysis of the memo, which claims with sound arguments that it might well be a hoax.
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by reldruh on Wed 9th Feb 2011 00:39 UTC
reldruh
Member since:
2007-02-05

He's completely right and it's good to hear him say it. Too many companies deny their problems all the way into the grave. I hope they use this opportunity to start actually competing. MeeGo has a lot of potential if it's used correctly, polished and brought to market. Things like QML and better integration with my desktop (and then the cloud, not the other way around) could be powerful tools and entice developers and users away from other platforms. I much prefer C++/QML to Java or Obj-C and I think I'm not alone. I want to see Nokia succeed here even if they are late to the party and have a long way to catch up now. Between the big strategy announcement he talks about in a few days and the MeeGo summit coming up, I'm keeping my fingers crossed we'll get http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/09/nokias-cross-platfo... in the near future.

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WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

I much prefer C++/QML to Java or Obj-C and I think I'm not alone.


Honestly, the prospect of coding in any of the above languages gets me about as excited as doing the 69 with a grizzly bear, while having Godzilla shoved up my ass. Besides, weren't these guys supposed to be getting their Python on?

Edited 2011-02-09 02:34 UTC

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Timmmm Member since:
2006-07-25

I'm guessing you've never used Qt?

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

MeeGo is developer friendly but what will drive user adoption?

They're talking about getting a single phone out this year and it doesn't sound like they have much faith in their own software.

They need to cut their losses and move on.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Alternatively, stay on target and bite the bullet. Depends on how far away they really are from getting a Meego phone out. Also take into account that this play might speed up Meego development by an order of magnitude.

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metalf8801 Member since:
2010-03-22

MeeGo is developer friendly but what will drive user adoption?

They're talking about getting a single phone out this year and it doesn't sound like they have much faith in their own software.


I think the biggest problem with releasing Meego phones/tablets is that Intel does not have a CPU that will work in a smart phone that is ready to be shipped. Meego is a joint project between Intel and Nokia. Speaking of Intel and Meego Intel didn't even talk about Meego at CES when talking about their new but ready smart phone CPU they just talked about Windows Phone 7. So from what I've read it's Intel who is hurting Meego right now not Nokia. That being said I still want a Meego tablet or phone.

I think if they want consumers to buy Meego phones they should port Android's Dalvik virtual machine to Meego and have Meego only C/C++ apps that are going to run 10 times faster than Java apps.

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tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

He's completely right and it's good to hear him say it. Too many companies deny their problems all the way into the grave. I hope they use this opportunity to start actually competing. MeeGo has a lot of potential if it's used correctly, polished and brought to market. Things like QML and better integration with my desktop (and then the cloud, not the other way around) could be powerful tools and entice developers and users away from other platforms. I much prefer C++/QML to Java or Obj-C and I think I'm not alone. I want to see Nokia succeed here even if they are late to the party and have a long way to catch up now. Between the big strategy announcement he talks about in a few days and the MeeGo summit coming up, I'm keeping my fingers crossed we'll get something worth supporting in the near future.


I much prefer ObjC-Cocoa on my platforms.

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shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Not portable - fail. Qt on the other hand is highly portable.

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ThomasFuhringer Member since:
2007-01-25

Nokia spent USD 150 mn to buy Qt. They are in the process of plowing probably another hundred million into it. They could have done a fork of GNUStep and invested a fraction of that money to have a nice platform with a language and an API that Apple has proven to work marvellously. They would even more or less share the developer base with Apple.

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