Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 9th Feb 2011 00:04 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Speaking of Nokia - Engadget got their hands on what is supposedly an internal memo sent to Nokia employees by the company's new CEO. It's... Brutal. As in, brutally honest. There's no sugar-coating here, no unicorns, no glitter. "Nokia, our platform is burning." Update: Android is probably out of the question. Will it be Windows Phone 7, after all? Damn; Palm tonight, Nokia Friday - what a week for mobile! Update: The "Communities Dominate Brands" blog published an in-depth analysis of the memo, which claims with sound arguments that it might well be a hoax.
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RE: It's obvious
by elsewhere on Wed 9th Feb 2011 05:19 UTC in reply to "It's obvious"
elsewhere
Member since:
2005-07-13

They have been outspent by Apple, Google and Microsoft.


Are you familiar with Nokia? They far outspend Apple, Google and Microsoft. Mobility is their core business. Their R&D department is the size of Apple.

Now, as to how effectively they've spent that money, well, sadly, that's an entirely different question and the current situation probably answers it adequately.

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RE[2]: It's obvious
by gregthecanuck on Wed 9th Feb 2011 05:35 in reply to "RE: It's obvious"
gregthecanuck Member since:
2006-05-30

"They have been outspent by Apple, Google and Microsoft.
Are you familiar with Nokia? They far outspend Apple, Google and Microsoft. Mobility is their core business. Their R&D department is the size of Apple. Now, as to how effectively they've spent that money, well, sadly, that's an entirely different question and the current situation probably answers it adequately. "
Latest news from appleinsider:

Apple 4Q/2010 phone revenue: $10.5 Billion
Nokia most recent quarter : 9.7 Billion

This is just Apple. Add in Android and WP7 and you can see Nokia's SALES (which must fund r&d) are being eclipsed by Apple and more than likely far more by Android.

They are now paying for a lack of focus in their r&d departments. No vision. Too bad.

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RE[3]: It's obvious
by JAlexoid on Wed 9th Feb 2011 06:07 in reply to "RE[2]: It's obvious"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

R&D doesn't necessary relate to revenue. Apple's R&D is a joke compared to Nokia's and they have very different R&D targets.

That said, Nokia's R&D has gone wild. They have no targets. They lack direction. And as a result they have unaligned results and sometimes incompatible or conflicting results.

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RE[3]: It's obvious
by tyrione on Wed 9th Feb 2011 06:25 in reply to "RE[2]: It's obvious"
tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

"[q]They have been outspent by Apple, Google and Microsoft.
Are you familiar with Nokia? They far outspend Apple, Google and Microsoft. Mobility is their core business. Their R&D department is the size of Apple. Now, as to how effectively they've spent that money, well, sadly, that's an entirely different question and the current situation probably answers it adequately. "
Latest news from appleinsider:

Apple 4Q/2010 phone revenue: $10.5 Billion
Nokia most recent quarter : 9.7 Billion

This is just Apple. Add in Android and WP7 and you can see Nokia's SALES (which must fund r&d) are being eclipsed by Apple and more than likely far more by Android.

They are now paying for a lack of focus in their r&d departments. No vision. Too bad. [/q]

I'll be redundant. Nokia far outspends Apple on R&D. It's not a matter of throwing money at a problem(s). It's a reality that the talent behind the applied money isn't on the same level as Apple.

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RE[2]: It's obvious
by _xmv on Wed 9th Feb 2011 12:14 in reply to "RE: It's obvious"
_xmv Member since:
2008-12-09

"They have been outspent by Apple, Google and Microsoft.


Are you familiar with Nokia? They far outspend Apple, Google and Microsoft. Mobility is their core business. Their R&D department is the size of Apple.

Now, as to how effectively they've spent that money, well, sadly, that's an entirely different question and the current situation probably answers it adequately.
"
Nokia R&D is actually far bigger than Apple.

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