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RE[3]: It's the marketing, stupid!
by Fergy on Wed 9th Feb 2011 10:22
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RE[3]: It's the marketing, stupid!
by lenrek on Wed 9th Feb 2011 10:25
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RE[4]: It's the marketing, stupid!
by zlynx on Wed 9th Feb 2011 15:51
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RE[3]: It's the marketing, stupid!
by MysterMask on Thu 10th Feb 2011 01:56
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At lauch, it lacked 3G, MMS, multitasking and cut & paste, all of which were implemented on Symbian phones.
*Blablabla*
As an owner of a Symbian phone, I give a sh***t on features like multitasking, cut & paste, MMS, etc. when the usability of said features is more than laking.
E. g. somebody mentioned that Nokias N95 went unnoticed because of a lake of marketing. Sorry, the N95 went unnoticed because it was a typical tech fetishist's product: A long list of features without any thought about usability. The N95 was a typical dinosaur device: Like dinosaurs growing bigger and bigger with the same brain until the reach the end of the flagpole, the N series packed more and more hardware into the device without any thoughts about developing the OS.
People tend to forget that some of Apple's innovation lie in the parts Apple did willfully omit e. g. no stylus and no physical keyboard input. Despite most 'smartphone users' that were fixated on this (thus all the comments at the beginning of the iPhone era about how Apple will fail miserably without such hardware input), Apple succeeded by providing a usable alternative to those means of input.
Apple's strategy was the right one: What they did provide was done right. They focused on certain features building a usable 'base device', delivering other features with updates when they were done. Now have a look at what Nokia does ..
RE[4]: It's the marketing, stupid!
by No it isnt on Thu 10th Feb 2011 10:44
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Apple's "innovation" doesn't lie in what they omit. The touchscreen is just a different input device, not even necessarily a better one. Better for web browsing, worse for almost everything else. Apple's "innovation" was never about omitting MMS, cut & paste or multitasking, they simply couldn't deliver at the time.
Of course, they needed the same people who queued up for the first gen iPhone to queue up for the 3G version next year, so in that sense their innovation lie in what they omit. They're very good at using their fan base for marketing, so making a first generation product with glaring flaws to go along with the bling is an excellent way to get to sell the same product twice.




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The only thing the iPhone did better was that it had a good touch screen interface and a good browser. Oh, and a nifty voicemail interface (does anyone care about this?). At lauch, it lacked 3G, MMS, multitasking and cut & paste, all of which were implemented on Symbian phones.
Somehow, it has taken Symbian longer to implement a decent touch screen interface than it has taken Apple to get most of the other things in shape.