Linked by Hadrien Grasland on Wed 9th Feb 2011 18:24 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Here's some very interesting analysis of why dropping Symbian or MeeGo for Android or Windows Phone 7 would be the closest thing to brand suicide which Nokia could do now.
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stopped reading it
by orsg on Wed 9th Feb 2011 19:23 UTC
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I actually stopped reading after he compared Nokia to Ford with the argument "Ford cannot afford to focus on sports cars, too"
what a ridiculus argument, did he ever have a look at the history of cars? For the last 40 years or so, a car can be defined as "a thing with 4 wheels, 3 pedals, and a steering wheel, where you can fill in some liquid and it runs about 100km/h". of course cars got a lot safer, more comfortable, more environment-friendly and probably got a little faster over time.
Now compare that to phones, due to technological advances, phones changed more over the last half decade than cars did over the last half century. Just 5 years ago, a mobile phone was a thing with a small display and a T9 keyboard, which could do calls, SMS and some MMS and stuff, which nobody really used anyway. Now large touchscreen devices with finger optimized UI and 1GHz CPUs sell like crazy.
To the order of magnitude, that cars got faster over the last 40 years, phones get faster hardware every single year, so how can he proclaim something like "it is not feasable for everyone to have a highend device"? I'm not talking of something like 2020, I actually think, there is no reason one would buy a not-so-smart phone 3 years from now except some very small nices (rugged phones, senior optimized phones, ...)

EDIT: or did he want to express, that nokia phones changed as little as Ford cars over the last decade? ;-)

Edited 2011-02-09 19:34 UTC

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RE: stopped reading it
by g2devi on Wed 9th Feb 2011 20:03 in reply to "stopped reading it"
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The main problem with Nokia (with Maemo) is the same problem OLPC folks face (and Borland faced with OWL back when they owned C++ on Windows development), namely credibility. Both announced their platform with defiant optimism. Both got a huge following. Both abandonned them. Anything produced after that is met with scepticism because the early adopters were left as orphans without even a migration path to the new platform. Meanwhile, the market moved on. Nokia added insult to injury by abandoning its old Symbian OS. Why should any developer or consumer trust Nokia again considering that there are safer and more credible competitors out there? How is Meego better than AndroidOS? It's not enough to be marginally better, AndroidOS has to be blown out of the water before it would be worth consumers and developer to accept the risk of being orphaned. An example of this would be, if Meego devices could give you everything AndroidOS did at a third of the price (since it needed to run on less powerful hardware). Another example would be being able to run both iOS and Android apps and Symbian apps and other types of apps at the same time at about the same price-point as Android or iOS devices.

BTW, seniors devices will likely be touch screens too since context sensitive buttons are much more intuitive than buttons that persist whether or not they are useful in the current context.

Edited 2011-02-09 20:05 UTC

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RE[2]: stopped reading it
by ricegf on Wed 9th Feb 2011 21:46 in reply to "RE: stopped reading it"
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As an N900 owner for the past year and iPad owner for a couple of months, I'm quite puzzled by your post.

How was I "abandoned" on the N900, exactly? How was I "left as orphans without even a migration path to the new platform"?

S60, Symbian^3 and MeeGo are programmed using Qt 2.6; well, darned if Qt 2.6 can't (now) be used to program Maemo as well. And the repository certainly has a fairly wide selection of Qt apps for my N900 today - more than I can work through, actually, which makes it effectively rather similar to my iPad (though the app store's UI is certainly more fun to browse - except for the prices ;-).

And I presume that you already know that the N900 can run the Dalvik engine by purchasing Alien (a commercial, supported product by Myriad), so that it runs Android apps. Oh, great - MORE apps to sort through!

And what's the first two platforms simultaneously supported by Firefox 4 Mobile? Hmmm...

So, I don't understand why you think I should feel abandoned or orphaned. My darned N900 tablet/phone has been a joy to use for the past year, and it still compares favorably to my iPad.

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RE: stopped reading it
by vodoomoth on Thu 10th Feb 2011 10:08 in reply to "stopped reading it"
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I urge you to return to the article and continue reading it. You cannot stop at yet another car analogy that you didn't like, you'd be missing out on something that is worthwhile, a link for all the figures is even included at the end of the blog post.

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