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PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Here's some very interesting analysis of why dropping Symbian or MeeGo for Android or Windows Phone 7 would be the closest thing to brand suicide which Nokia could do now.
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RE[5]: Wrong in the long run ...
by shmerl on Wed 9th Feb 2011 22:53 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Wrong in the long run ..."
shmerl
Member since:
2010-06-08

I personally don't mind having terminal, lynx (can Android easily run it?), midnight commander and all other console goodies, but why RH 1.0? Meego has modern kernel and UI.

What I meant is, that since Meego is an normal Linux it can easily run VMs for Java (including Dalvik too), Ruby, Python and etc. All this in addition to native code. Can you run normal Java (not Dalvik) on Android?

Edited 2011-02-09 22:53 UTC

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Ah, so things like performance and ui should be considered when considering things from a"technical perspective"? Well, then its not quite so clear cut anymore. Which UI you prefer and how much that matters are going to vary from person to person.

What I meant is, that since Meego is an normal Linux it can easily run VMs for Java (including Dalvik too), Ruby, Python and etc. All this in addition to native code. Can you run normal Java (not Dalvik) on Android?



Android can run some Ruby, Python etc through the Android Scripting Environment. Pure Java? Maybe. Not sure. There is now a native development environment for Android where you can code in c without going through Dalvik. You could port the OpenJDK to it, as well as any of the full versions of any scripting language. Android is also open source ( in the same way that any BSD is ), which means that you really do have a lot of freedom with the code. The real challenge with Android can be getting that code to work on your particular phone. Or visa versa getting the code to the particular OS ( with Device Manufacturer tweeks ) that's running on your phone.

I guess what I've been trying to say is that there are other things that I woudl consider Android does better from a technical perspective that you haven't even addressed. Like the fact that most app development is done in a virtual machine, which should prevent the kinds of issues (buffer overflows, null pointer errors,ect ) that apps written in pure c can. This comes at a cost in speed, but at the benefit of additional security, stability and ease of development.

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shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

As I said, Meego just gives a bigger *choice*. Android's NDK is a good step forward, but Meego is still more flexible in a way development can be done there.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

"Android can run some Ruby, Python etc through the Android Scripting Environment."

And Maemo/Meego can run Ruby code through Ruby and Python through Python not a one-off scripting environment.

Having a real distro under the hood is a big selling point and makes a differences; even for the folks who aren't devs. I'm sure not coding from scartch but what I do with the N900 can't yet be replicated with available apps on another phone platform.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

Don't forget sane layout under the hood. I'm told Android is less than a standard distro layout once you get below the GUI display.

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