Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 11th Feb 2011 09:05 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless It's official. Dismissed as a silly rumour by many, Nokia and Micorsoft have just announced a very comprehensive partnership in which Windows Phone 7 will become Nokia's prime smartphone platform. It goes a lot deeper than that, though. Update: Qt will not be available for Windows Phone 7. Qt will remain the development platform for MeeGo and Symbian. Update II: During its Capital Market Day event, Elop confirmed Nokia will not make a comprehensive MeeGo product line. It will be a platform to learn from, but it won't become a competitive platform. Update III: Android was not an option because it would be difficult to differentiate there. Update IV: There will be 'substantial reductions in employment' in Finland and around the world. Also, before I forget, thanks Engadget for the live-blogging where I get this stuff from!
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RE[2]: Oh well
by bert64 on Fri 11th Feb 2011 10:38 UTC in reply to "RE: Oh well"
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Much of the delay with MeeGo was just that, the transition from Maemo which was a relatively stable and complete platform, to MeeGo that is a significant departure and in need of significant changes.

Without their own OS, nokia will be reduced to just producing hardware and having to compete with the asians who can produce the same hardware more cheaply... Also to choose windows phone 7 over android is another black mark, windows mobile left a bad taste in many peoples mouths and while windows may be a well known brand, it also has negative connotations and is not generally associated with phones.

I liked the idea of meego/maemo, an open linux based platform for your phone.. Android requires significant effort to turn it into a regular linux system, and while the iphone can have a bsd userland installed you need to jailbreak it in order to do that.

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RE[3]: Oh well
by henderson101 on Fri 11th Feb 2011 11:58 in reply to "RE[2]: Oh well"
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Much of the delay with MeeGo was just that, the transition from Maemo which was a relatively stable and complete platform,.....

Really? Are you sure Maemo was "relatively stable and complete"??? It broke binary ABI with every major release. So, on the N800 alone, we had NITOS2007 and NITOS2008 then there were the 2 or 3 revisions of NITOS2008... so, basically 2006 -> 2007 broke ABI. 2007 -> 2008 broke ABI. 2008 broke ABI on itself. This is well documented and people were talking about it back *in* 2007!!!

Every ABI break lost apps. Sad. The pool of apps reduced over time, not increased. It would have been okay if there had actually been more than 2 or 3 that were worth having. *sigh*

EDIT: and the fact that the only option for development was Linux (which I was okay with) but installing the SDK was completely and totally un intuitive and cumbersome, AND was RPM based, so made installing on Ubuntu (which I much preferred over RPM style distros) extremely tricky... I dunno... I'm a Windows and Mac guy. I like installers that don't make me learn how to manually install software. ANd then, once installed - it was never straight forward to get it working and the emulation was flakey. A far cry from WinMobile, Android and iOS (all of which have their flaws, but at least they install without too many headaches and then just "work")

Edited 2011-02-11 12:06 UTC

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RE[4]: Oh well
by jabbotts on Fri 11th Feb 2011 15:03 in reply to "RE[3]: Oh well"
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Interesting to see all that layed out having ridden it through from the N800/07 firmware. I really liked being able to mutli-boot.. my N800 kept my 2007 install and got the 2008 bootable.

Your mention of ABIs does explain some of my grief though; eg. Ruby/Maemo good on 2007 and 2008 but not wroth a sht on Maemo5's Ruby.. booo.

The other side of this though; so what mobile phone/pda with standard Linux distro can I pick now cause it's not Android, WP7 or Ios delivering a full Linux distro barely a single fork from Debian proper. That's going to be my research project until this N900 gives up the ghost and an actual hardware/software upgrade becomes available.. from anyone.

(guh.. I really am re-living the Palm calapse.. hamstrung product line, no upgrade path, left to wait for another vendor to provide a viable option.)

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