Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 11th Feb 2011 11:35 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless A lot of people are wondering why Nokia didn't choose to go with Android. How can Nokia differentiate themselves when Android is a lot more open and free than Windows Phone 7? As usual, the key to this is in the details. If you read the announcements carefully, you'll see that Microsoft offered Nokia something Google most likely didn't. Update: What a surprise. Elop just confirmed Nokia has a special deal with Microsoft. Whereas HTC, Samsung, and so on are not allowed to customise WP7 - Nokia is, further confirming my theory.
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We will see. IMO utter bullshit
by kragil on Fri 11th Feb 2011 12:14 UTC
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Nokia just lost all credibility with developers. Qt just a few weeks ago was to be the platform for all Nokia devices. Now it won't even run on WindoesPhone7(dayum, that name creeps me out)

Qt quick is the best way to develop great apps there is PERIOD. Sure a new platform needs some polish and that takes time, but Android showed that you can arrive late and still dominate. The smartphone wars are far from over.

Nokia will gain a nearly finished platform and few known brands .. well Xbox, but mainly Office. Bing is just unkown. Do people really care for Office anymore?

Nokia will loose:
-The 6 billion they invested in maps (Navteq maps or bing maps .. people will not care. HTCs WP7 phones will have the same mapping as far as the gernal public is concerned.)
-Half a billion they invested in Qt and Meego
-A lot of faith and cred with developers. Don't go around telling people Qt is the future and now it won't even be supported on WP7. Because at the end of the day MS controls WP7, not Nokia. MS is the daddy, Nokia the bitch.
-They will have to compete with the likes of Samsung and equal terms, which builds RAM,SOCs and displays and they will always be cheaper and faster. Anybody who thinks Nokia will be able to build better "more differiantiated phones than HTC or Samsung is just insane. MS wants WP7 to succeed, they couldn't care less for Nokia.

I could go on and on, but at the end of the day a great european company is doomed, maybe it already was, but now it is quite certain.

Edited 2011-02-11 12:17 UTC

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:

Nokia will loose:

Just because you already dug a very deep hole doesn't mean you have to keep digging.

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kragil Member since:

Maybe there was a treasure hidden there, now they stopped digging.

We could argue all day I guess. What is certain is that Nokia no longer controls its own fate, it is a WP7 manufacturer now.

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Radio Member since:

"Nokia will loose:

Just because you already dug a very deep hole doesn't mean you have to keep digging.
Yeah, it is so much better to take a crap. Zune, Kin, Nokia.

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drahca Member since:

Just because you already dug a very deep hole doesn't mean you have to keep digging.

Thom you are without a doubt clueless. MS now controls Nokia's faith. Microsoft managed to get an inside man into Nokia who has now succeeded in totally destroying the Nokia developer community.

This deal is bad for OSS, bad for Qt, bad for KDE, bad for the Nokia development community, bad for Nokia's own developers (how about those ex-Trolltech people), the end of Meego, the end of Symbian.

The only ones who profit from this deal are Microsoft and its shareholders, Nokia's CEO and shareholders (in the short term) and of course the Microsoft fanboys.

Oh, and do you really think all the Qt devs will now switch to .NET all of a sudden? How do you think Nokia's own developers will feel if they now have to start developing in .NET?

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bfr99 Member since:

Depends what you mean by doomed. Nokia will become a marketing and distribution company of products manufactured in Asia using US and Asian designed chip sets and software from Microsoft. This can be a highly profitable business because it does not require large R&D and other capital expenses.

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bnolsen Member since:

And they have no value beyond what HTC, etc already offers. That means nokia accepts a potentially permanent minority share of the marketplace.

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