Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 11th Feb 2011 11:35 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless A lot of people are wondering why Nokia didn't choose to go with Android. How can Nokia differentiate themselves when Android is a lot more open and free than Windows Phone 7? As usual, the key to this is in the details. If you read the announcements carefully, you'll see that Microsoft offered Nokia something Google most likely didn't. Update: What a surprise. Elop just confirmed Nokia has a special deal with Microsoft. Whereas HTC, Samsung, and so on are not allowed to customise WP7 - Nokia is, further confirming my theory.
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drahca
Member since:
2006-02-23

Just because you already dug a very deep hole doesn't mean you have to keep digging.


Thom you are without a doubt clueless. MS now controls Nokia's faith. Microsoft managed to get an inside man into Nokia who has now succeeded in totally destroying the Nokia developer community.

This deal is bad for OSS, bad for Qt, bad for KDE, bad for the Nokia development community, bad for Nokia's own developers (how about those ex-Trolltech people), the end of Meego, the end of Symbian.

The only ones who profit from this deal are Microsoft and its shareholders, Nokia's CEO and shareholders (in the short term) and of course the Microsoft fanboys.

Oh, and do you really think all the Qt devs will now switch to .NET all of a sudden? How do you think Nokia's own developers will feel if they now have to start developing in .NET?

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

MS now controls Nokia's faith.


*sigh*

MS needs Nokia to succeed. For the second time, you need to get out of your 90s mindset. Microsoft does not have a monopoly. It doesn't get to order Nokia around. Microsoft sells three phones every month - Nokia sells about a 300 billion squintillion phones every nanosecond. In this deal Microsoft is the underdog.

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dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

Why then didn't they enable QT on WP7?
This is no-brainer from Nokia pov. Without that they are alienating their existing dev community (basically passing them message they are redundant).

Edited 2011-02-11 16:27 UTC

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

*sigh*

MS needs Nokia to succeed. For the second time, you need to get out of your 90s mindset. Microsoft does not have a monopoly. It doesn't get to order Nokia around. Microsoft sells three phones every month - Nokia sells about a 300 billion squintillion phones every nanosecond. In this deal Microsoft is the underdog.

At the risk of repeating myself...

Microsoft initially needed IBM, too. And Sendo. Where are these now ?

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

You might well sigh Thom, but you're still clueless.

The one thing you never, ever, ever do is sell off your platform to someone else and place it under their control. Microsoft is in total control if Nokia is relying on them to deliver a platform. You always, always control your own platform. You also don't piss off your developers.

Microsoft is not an underdog here at all. It shows a lack of understanding as to where the balance of power is in these kinds of relationships.

Edited 2011-02-11 16:59 UTC

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shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

Thom, if the history of Microsoft has taught us one thing, it must be that:-

"In a Deal/Partnership etc, Microsoft is NEVER the underdog"

It might very well seem to you that way at the moment. I am sure however that in due course, Nokia will fade away and become just another (potentially loss making) division of Microsoft Inc.

Looking into my crystal ball I see the following:-

I am sure that in 2-3 years there will be stuff in Windows 8/9 that won't work properly unless it is paired with a MS-Nokia Phone. Maybe OutLook & Exchange?
If you think that Apple has lock-in down to a fine art then sit back at watch the master of the universe at work.
Then where will we be?

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deppbv78 Member since:
2008-06-29

I'd say that you guys are probably overreacting. Nokia will not stop its investments on Meego or Qt. Only thing going away is Symbian.

Below link clearly shows that Nokia will continue its investment in Meego & the likes (albeit with some reduction)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/rip-symbian/

As good as WP7 is currently, it is not a good tablet platform. Meego will fulfill this need for Nokia.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

Well, here is hoping they actually live up to the promise of continued Meego development but it seems one of a long line of promises that change two months later.

Going back to a basic phone and a PDA combination may not be so bad though either. We'll have to see how it goes. I might even buy the future Nokia MID if it's a true upgrade in the N### path and runs a standard distro instead of a mashed stack.

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dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

MS wants full Windows on a tablet.

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