Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 11th Feb 2011 11:35 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless A lot of people are wondering why Nokia didn't choose to go with Android. How can Nokia differentiate themselves when Android is a lot more open and free than Windows Phone 7? As usual, the key to this is in the details. If you read the announcements carefully, you'll see that Microsoft offered Nokia something Google most likely didn't. Update: What a surprise. Elop just confirmed Nokia has a special deal with Microsoft. Whereas HTC, Samsung, and so on are not allowed to customise WP7 - Nokia is, further confirming my theory.
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Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

MS now controls Nokia's faith.


*sigh*

MS needs Nokia to succeed. For the second time, you need to get out of your 90s mindset. Microsoft does not have a monopoly. It doesn't get to order Nokia around. Microsoft sells three phones every month - Nokia sells about a 300 billion squintillion phones every nanosecond. In this deal Microsoft is the underdog.

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dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

Why then didn't they enable QT on WP7?
This is no-brainer from Nokia pov. Without that they are alienating their existing dev community (basically passing them message they are redundant).

Edited 2011-02-11 16:27 UTC

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

*sigh*

MS needs Nokia to succeed. For the second time, you need to get out of your 90s mindset. Microsoft does not have a monopoly. It doesn't get to order Nokia around. Microsoft sells three phones every month - Nokia sells about a 300 billion squintillion phones every nanosecond. In this deal Microsoft is the underdog.

At the risk of repeating myself...

Microsoft initially needed IBM, too. And Sendo. Where are these now ?

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Microsoft initially needed IBM, too. And Sendo. Where are these now ?

Some people just can't see history I'm afraid. They always have this mindset that somehow things are different.

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

A list of previous Microsoft mobile 'partners':

http://www.asymco.com/2011/02/11/in-memoriam-microsofts-previous-st...

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viton Member since:
2005-08-09

What's wrong with IBM? They're making plenty of money. Less than M$, but more than Intel.

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

You might well sigh Thom, but you're still clueless.

The one thing you never, ever, ever do is sell off your platform to someone else and place it under their control. Microsoft is in total control if Nokia is relying on them to deliver a platform. You always, always control your own platform. You also don't piss off your developers.

Microsoft is not an underdog here at all. It shows a lack of understanding as to where the balance of power is in these kinds of relationships.

Edited 2011-02-11 16:59 UTC

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drahca Member since:
2006-02-23

The one thing you never, ever, ever do is sell off your platform to someone else and place it under their control.


Exactly. Thom clearly does not remember how MS played the Windows NT card back in the day. All the Unix vendors created strategic alliances with MS over Windows NT, placing the focus of the future on Windows NT instead of their own platforms. DEC even had 200+ engineers working on the NT code base to port it all to 64-bit. MS screwed them all over by not properly supporting these platforms and not even porting Office to them. By the time they realized what happened, it was too late.

Smartphones are not about the hardware, but all about the software. Now that Nokia has killed their own software development, the future looks very bleak for Nokia.

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testman Member since:
2007-10-15

Don't be so disingenuous.

Thom has angered the freetards, cynics and the "oh noes M$ WINBLOW$ !!11" and "ZOMG REALITY DISTORTION FIELD" crowd who are already smarting from the announcement.

In their impotent rage, all they can do is hit the vote button and hope that comments they are opposed to never have a chance to be seen by casual readers while firing off an emotional, or snarky comment to be voted up by the hive mind.

End rant.

Personally I think this is an excellent outcome for Nokia. WP7 is a very polished platform and Nokia make some pretty decent handsets.

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shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

Thom, if the history of Microsoft has taught us one thing, it must be that:-

"In a Deal/Partnership etc, Microsoft is NEVER the underdog"

It might very well seem to you that way at the moment. I am sure however that in due course, Nokia will fade away and become just another (potentially loss making) division of Microsoft Inc.

Looking into my crystal ball I see the following:-

I am sure that in 2-3 years there will be stuff in Windows 8/9 that won't work properly unless it is paired with a MS-Nokia Phone. Maybe OutLook & Exchange?
If you think that Apple has lock-in down to a fine art then sit back at watch the master of the universe at work.
Then where will we be?

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