Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Sun 16th Oct 2005 03:26 UTC, submitted by tpenta
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y Max Brunning has posted a brief comparison of how these three Operating Systems approach a number of basic kernel tasks. He has a brief look at: Scheduling and Schedulers, Memory Management and Paging, and File Systems. Max is an Instructor who spends his time teaching Solaris internals, device drivers, and kernel crash dump analysis and debugging.
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RE: Why Linux is Better and Faster
by Arun on Mon 17th Oct 2005 14:28 UTC in reply to "Why Linux is Better and Faster"
Arun
Member since:
2005-07-07

Besides, if you want to know some of the reasons why Linux is better and faster you only need to read some of Larry McVoy's comments:

McVoy left Sun more than a decade ago. His numbers and that website are as outdated as it gets. They are comparing linux 2.0.x to Solari 2.5.1(sunos 5.5.1)... Solaris is at 10 (SunOS 5.10) and linux at 2.6. A lot has changed since then in both Oses and thsoe numbers are as meaningful as the number of votes in an election are relevant to two political parties victory decision today.

BTW his comments about Solaris' sys call interface is so old it was obsoleted years ago.

Solaris and other Unices are based on code and design that is thirty years old. As Larry says, one would hope we have learned something during that time, and Linux is the result. If Sun truly want a modern Unix system that performs well then all they need to do is dump Solaris and contribute to Linux. Cost-wise, it would also be a heck of a lot less expensive.

They have learned quite a bit and are giving linux a run for it's money. Look at the recent benchmark results (some from anandtech were posted above). Not only that linux isplaying catch up on many features Solaris has had for decades, oh and Solaris is now also opensource.

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

They are comparing linux 2.0.x to Solari 2.5.1(sunos 5.5.1)... Solaris is at 10 (SunOS 5.10) and linux at 2.6.

Nevertheless, it just showed how much Sun was trying to pull the wool over peoples' eyes. The lineage of both Linux and Solaris is very much still there.

They have learned quite a bit and are giving linux a run for it's money.

Well that's just an admission of defeat right there.

Not only that linux isplaying catch up on many features Solaris has had for decades

I don't see where. Certainly most educational establishments I've seen have have moved from Solaris to Linux, saved an absolute bundle on hardware costs and experienced a performance boost to boot. I know, I worked in one and the head tech guy there was a die-hard Solaris and Mac fan. Unfortunately, at some stage he just had to face reality as he realised that Solaris just didn't matter to the wider community writing software for *nix systems. They're not missing anything they had with Solaris - quite the opposite.

oh and Solaris is now also opensource.

I think there's this perception amongst Sun people that open sourcing Solaris will magically give them what the Linux (and to a lesser extent BSD) communities have. Certainly, with a lot of third-party open source software it will help with the troubleshooting of the problems that Solaris seems to have with some third-party open source software. That's if anyone actually cares that some things don't work on Solaris of course, which is something my friend came up against.

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Arun Member since:
2005-07-07

Nevertheless, it just showed how much Sun was trying to pull the wool over peoples' eyes. The lineage of both Linux and Solaris is very much still there.

That statement is so absurd I don't even want to delve into the absurdities to give you benifit of doubt.

Well that's just an admission of defeat right there.

So what is the problem. Solaris developers are real men and can accept that they were wrong/ misguided. Solaris developer picked maintainability over hacky performance. Now they are improving performance. Nothing wrong with that. They have improved performance to a point that hey have surpassed linux. And have developed to tools to surpass it even more.

I don't see where. Certainly most educational establishments I've seen have have moved from Solaris to Linux, saved an absolute bundle on hardware costs and experienced a performance boost to boot. I know, I worked in one and the head tech guy there was a die-hard Solaris and Mac fan. Unfortunately, at some stage he just had to face reality as he realised that Solaris just didn't matter to the wider community writing software for *nix systems. They're not missing anything they had with Solaris - quite the opposite.

I didn't expect you to see etiher. Your paragraph is aboslutely abusrd. People switched from sparc hardware to x86 and saved money. They chose to run linux because it was the unix flavor of they day on x86. guess what Sun sells x86 boxes and Solaris trounces linux on them and they are cheaper than the competitors to boot, are more efficient and have better remote managment than your average assembled white box. Time will tell.

I think there's this perception amongst Sun people that open sourcing Solaris will magically give them what the Linux (and to a lesser extent BSD) communities have. Certainly, with a lot of third-party open source software it will help with the troubleshooting of the problems that Solaris seems to have with some third-party open source software. That's if anyone actually cares that some things don't work on Solaris of course, which is something my friend came up against.

The community may or may not errupt. only time will tell. I have so many annecdotal evidence for linux to mac and soalris switchers that we can back and forth all day. But in the end a lot of pro linux plus points are soon vanishing into the ether with Sun's new hardware strategies and Solaris 10. Even the linux poster boy google is partnering with Sun.

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