Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 16th Feb 2011 23:24 UTC
Games You'd almost forget it, but a few weeks ago, the Playstation 3 was hacked wide open - like a pristine cave deep in the world of Minecraft. This has let out all sorts of nasties, and now Sony is trying to clean up the mess. For once, I'm in full agreement with their position.
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RE: Cheating at video games?
by jjmckay on Thu 17th Feb 2011 02:51 UTC in reply to "Cheating at video games?"
jjmckay
Member since:
2005-11-11

You know, I have never understood the concept of cheating in video games. And I'm not talking about the kind of cheats you enable in a single player game to pass a troublesome spot where you can skip to the next level, or whatever. I'm talking about the kind of cheating you do online against other people.

I mean, how bankrupt does your life have to be for you to do something like that? And what exactly do you accomplish by doing this, other than reaffirming that you're a f**king loser? Maybe you can increase your gamer score or something, but it's not like some hot asian chicks are going to come over and blow you for your troubles. So why even waste your time? Are you so much of a failure in every other area of your life that you feel this is something you must do to feel better about yourself?

Mind you, I don't do any sort of online gaming and have no dog in this hunt; I am just curious about the psychology of those who cheat online.


One big reason why people cheat in online games is to boost their ego. It is the comparative mind to which many people are enslaved. It is a mentally constructed and conceptualized false sense of self.

It's the same reason many people buy expensive clothes or why people buy into any product offering exclusivity. I've seen Apple advertisements appeal to this desire. Why do people buy $30,000 Gucci purses? Exclusivity.

There's nothing necessarily wrong with game rankings, but taking them seriously is where it becomes insane. I think that's what you are seeing, too.

Another reason is that many people are sadist. They get gratification (sexual and otherwise) from dominating other people. They laugh as they do it too.

Sorry, the human species is dangerously insane.

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RE[2]: Cheating at video games?
by erak on Thu 17th Feb 2011 11:38 in reply to "RE: Cheating at video games?"
erak Member since:
2006-09-24

You present good arguments. But one thing I don't agree on is


It's the same reason many people buy expensive clothes or why people buy into any product offering exclusivity. I've seen Apple advertisements appeal to this desire. Why do people buy $30,000 Gucci purses? Exclusivity.

A purse for $30,000 is of course OTT. But in general I don't see it just as exclusivity. You forget about the arts and craftsmanship. Buying certain clothes and accessories can be equaled to buying a painting. And I guess you see it as more OK to buy expensive paintings?

I can also pay extra for a brand that stands for craftsmanship or with a history of good craftsmanship, like Rolex.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

At some point, the craftsmanship of a product is maximized and, for lack of further real value, synthetic value must be added through the luxury branding, artificial scarcity or whatever can be exploited. If our hypothetical Gucci purse sells for 30k, that same purse and build quality without the

Gucci logo sewn on will only sell for a few hundred. There is no real difference, purely market magic concocted to part fools from there money (though a fool paying 30k for a purse will probably be able to refill the wallet pretty quickly).

A luxury item is more like a hot air balloon's basket held up by the inflated brand it's strung under.

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r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

I can also pay extra for a brand that stands for craftsmanship or with a history of good craftsmanship, like Rolex.

Interesting point of view, but using Rolex as an example of the craftsmanship argument is rather poor. It is (almost) universally accepted that a Rolex is primarily a status symbol. If craftsmanship is the defining factor, there is nothing wrong with the craftsmanship of, say, a Swatch watch (metal or not).

Then again, a Rolex is a far better Chick Magnet than a Swatch and using craftsmanship as a justification is far less pompous than other subterfuges.

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WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

A purse for $30,000 is of course OTT. But in general I don't see it just as exclusivity. You forget about the arts and craftsmanship. Buying certain clothes and accessories can be equaled to buying a painting. And I guess you see it as more OK to buy expensive paintings?

I can also pay extra for a brand that stands for craftsmanship or with a history of good craftsmanship, like Rolex.


The only time I would buy an expensive painting is if I could turn around and sell it to some idiot who would pay significantly more than what I bought it for.

As for watches, my watch costs around $30 and has 10x the functionality of a Rolex, and will probably last for years too. So yes, a Rolex is a waste of money, IMHO.

But getting back to the topic, at least wearing expensive clothes/watches might be enough to attract some hot chicks, and you might be able to get in their pants that way, so at least they have SOME value, assuming you need to attract shallow people. The only thing cheating in video games will get you is a date with your right hand.

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