Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 16th Feb 2011 23:24 UTC
Games You'd almost forget it, but a few weeks ago, the Playstation 3 was hacked wide open - like a pristine cave deep in the world of Minecraft. This has let out all sorts of nasties, and now Sony is trying to clean up the mess. For once, I'm in full agreement with their position.
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RE[2]: Cheating at video games?
by erak on Thu 17th Feb 2011 11:38 UTC in reply to "RE: Cheating at video games?"
erak
Member since:
2006-09-24

You present good arguments. But one thing I don't agree on is


It's the same reason many people buy expensive clothes or why people buy into any product offering exclusivity. I've seen Apple advertisements appeal to this desire. Why do people buy $30,000 Gucci purses? Exclusivity.

A purse for $30,000 is of course OTT. But in general I don't see it just as exclusivity. You forget about the arts and craftsmanship. Buying certain clothes and accessories can be equaled to buying a painting. And I guess you see it as more OK to buy expensive paintings?

I can also pay extra for a brand that stands for craftsmanship or with a history of good craftsmanship, like Rolex.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

At some point, the craftsmanship of a product is maximized and, for lack of further real value, synthetic value must be added through the luxury branding, artificial scarcity or whatever can be exploited. If our hypothetical Gucci purse sells for 30k, that same purse and build quality without the

Gucci logo sewn on will only sell for a few hundred. There is no real difference, purely market magic concocted to part fools from there money (though a fool paying 30k for a purse will probably be able to refill the wallet pretty quickly).

A luxury item is more like a hot air balloon's basket held up by the inflated brand it's strung under.

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r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

I can also pay extra for a brand that stands for craftsmanship or with a history of good craftsmanship, like Rolex.

Interesting point of view, but using Rolex as an example of the craftsmanship argument is rather poor. It is (almost) universally accepted that a Rolex is primarily a status symbol. If craftsmanship is the defining factor, there is nothing wrong with the craftsmanship of, say, a Swatch watch (metal or not).

Then again, a Rolex is a far better Chick Magnet than a Swatch and using craftsmanship as a justification is far less pompous than other subterfuges.

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RE[4]: Cheating at video games?
by erak on Fri 18th Feb 2011 01:00 in reply to "RE[3]: Cheating at video games?"
erak Member since:
2006-09-24

I don't own a rolex, it was just an example as I read about watches recently.

I don't know how to say this nicely but this sentence must be the most absurd I've heard recently:

It is (almost) universally accepted that a Rolex is primarily a status symbol.

You can't know the first thing about mechanical wristwatches. Rolex is one of the most respected watchmakers. Read up on their history of inventions and innovations.

I have full respect for swatch. They were created to save swiss manufacturing from the competition of electronic watches from asia. I actually own a swatch. But do you also remember what I said about history? Swatch is famous for electronic quartz watches, and that's a whole different deal than mechanical ones. Rolex and Breguet, for example, has made a name for themselves because of mechanical inventions for centuries.

Chick Magnet

I'm sad to hear you bring that up.

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WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

A purse for $30,000 is of course OTT. But in general I don't see it just as exclusivity. You forget about the arts and craftsmanship. Buying certain clothes and accessories can be equaled to buying a painting. And I guess you see it as more OK to buy expensive paintings?

I can also pay extra for a brand that stands for craftsmanship or with a history of good craftsmanship, like Rolex.


The only time I would buy an expensive painting is if I could turn around and sell it to some idiot who would pay significantly more than what I bought it for.

As for watches, my watch costs around $30 and has 10x the functionality of a Rolex, and will probably last for years too. So yes, a Rolex is a waste of money, IMHO.

But getting back to the topic, at least wearing expensive clothes/watches might be enough to attract some hot chicks, and you might be able to get in their pants that way, so at least they have SOME value, assuming you need to attract shallow people. The only thing cheating in video games will get you is a date with your right hand.

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RE[4]: Cheating at video games?
by erak on Fri 18th Feb 2011 01:04 in reply to "RE[3]: Cheating at video games?"
erak Member since:
2006-09-24

The only time I would buy an expensive painting is if I could turn around and sell it to some idiot who would pay significantly more than what I bought it for.

Of course, it's an investment. But also something nice to look at.

As for watches, my watch costs around $30 and has 10x the functionality of a Rolex, and will probably last for years too. So yes, a Rolex is a waste of money, IMHO.

Don't make this into a mechanical watches versus electronic war...

Edited 2011-02-18 01:17 UTC

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