Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 22nd Feb 2011 23:26 UTC
Windows Ever since the successful development and launch of Windows 7, Microsoft has become ever tighter-lipped about Windows development. Sure, it dropped the bomb about releasing Windows 8 for ARM, but that's it. Nothing on features or timetables (other than 'three years after Windows 7'). Well, the usually well-connected (inside Microsoft, that is) Mary-Jo Foley now claims to have a legit development roadmap - and it seems everything is on track for a Windows 8 beta in September 2011.
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RE: The Microsoft Tax?
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 23rd Feb 2011 13:26 UTC in reply to "The Microsoft Tax?"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Will MS try to dictate the HW configs like they did with Netbooks?


Hardware makers were free to ignore the Windows-specified limits and make Linux netbooks. In fact, they did - massively. It's just that no one bought them.

Go play somewhere else, troll.

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RE[2]: The Microsoft Tax?
by TechGeek on Wed 23rd Feb 2011 17:31 in reply to "RE: The Microsoft Tax?"
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2006-01-14

Actually what he said is true. Microsoft did dictate that companies who were receiving Windows for basically free for the netbooks had to limit the specs of the netbook. There were limits on drive size, ram, and screen size. And the only way to be profitable was to sell Windows. So the OEM's were kind of in a bind as it cost too much to have separate hardware lines for Linux and Windows. There is no technological reason why you couldn't have 4 gigs of ram in a netbook, Microsoft just didn't want it eating into their sales.

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RE[3]: The Microsoft Tax?
by n4cer on Wed 23rd Feb 2011 20:27 in reply to "RE[2]: The Microsoft Tax?"
n4cer Member since:
2005-07-06

Actually what he said is true. Microsoft did dictate that companies who were receiving Windows for basically free for the netbooks had to limit the specs of the netbook. There were limits on drive size, ram, and screen size. And the only way to be profitable was to sell Windows. So the OEM's were kind of in a bind as it cost too much to have separate hardware lines for Linux and Windows. There is no technological reason why you couldn't have 4 gigs of ram in a netbook, Microsoft just didn't want it eating into their sales.


Those limits were only applied to netbooks shipping with Windows Starter. It wasn't a limit on what hardware the OEM could ship. It was what Windows OS SKU they could ship for a given hardware configuration.

The OEMs were free to sell a higher-speced netbook with Windows preloaded as long as they loaded Home or higher. If the netbook wasn't running Windows, the OEM could configure it however they wanted. In most cases, Windows actually upped the base spec of the netbooks, because the Linux-based ones shipped with smaller, flash drives (and possibly slower CPUs and less memory) prior to the availability of Windows in that market.

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RE[2]: The Microsoft Tax?
by lemur2 on Thu 24th Feb 2011 01:31 in reply to "RE: The Microsoft Tax?"
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2007-02-17

"Will MS try to dictate the HW configs like they did with Netbooks?
Hardware makers were free to ignore the Windows-specified limits and make Linux netbooks. In fact, they did - massively. It's just that no one bought them. Go play somewhere else, troll. "

Actually, Linux netbooks were selling like hotcakes in the store one minute, and then Microsoft took XP Home back off the shelf, blew the cobwebs away, and "provided" it to OEMs. Within a week of XP Home shipping in stores, all stock of Linux was removed. At some stores local to me there were plenty of Linux netbooks in store when literally overnight they were removed, and from that point on ONLY XP Home netbooks were offered for sale.

Naturally people stopped buying Linux netbooks from stores when there were none to buy in the store any more.

Meanwhile, in some countries with a fair market, or in other sales situations such as online sales, Linux netbooks still represent about 33% of netbook sales.

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