Max Brunning has posted a brief comparison of how these three Operating Systems approach a number of basic kernel tasks. He has a brief look at: Scheduling and Schedulers, Memory Management and Paging, and File Systems. Max is an Instructor who spends his time teaching Solaris internals, device drivers, and kernel crash dump analysis and debugging.
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Evidence in terms of recent independant benchmarks has been provided to you that shows Solaris 10 beating linux on the same hardware.
I'll make this one extremely simple for you. W-H-E-R-E?? Where are they?
and the other linux zealots.
Zealousy, yad, yada, yada.
I guess you can't read, let alone comprehend. Scroll up and look at the benchmarks from Anandtech.
Those benchmarks were conducted on a Sun machine (not exactly my idea if imparial), and they don't look great considering that Sun must have squeezed the life out of the whole set up to make Solaris look good.
When I see a simple lmbench result that Solaris can't get right I have to ask myself why. It's been common knowledge for several years.
Good for them...
Since most of them are ex-Sun customers in educational establishments, yer, it is. But of course, telling customers to sod off is part of Sun's repetoire.
You might want to read the other Sun related Article and see how many big datacenters don't just trust x86 running linux.
That's just a statement out of fear.
Yeah a college moving student labs to linux... oooh big losss there.
It's more than that. It's a whole medical school first, and then the whole university of tens of thousands of students. This place was a big Sun customer.
The HP and Sun Unix boxes were rock solid and the cheap assembled Linux boxes were dying left right and center and constantly needed babysitting.
These have been in for over three years. They've never budged and replacing anything is infinitely less expensive than all of that incredible and mythical Sun support.
I was horrendous.
I'm sure you were.
The only thing demonstrated by fact and data are the most recent benchmarks showing Solaris beating linux.
Wish, wish, wish. I'd trust an obviously abnormal lmbench result over a daft bar graph of Solaris running on Sun's own hardware any day. It's what you see day to day that matters. You still can't come up with an explanation for it.
I stoppe palying with linux after A nightmarish weekend trying to get ALSA and video 4linux to work with my ATI all in wonder card with the 2.4 kernel and trying to get X video to work with a toshiba that used the Cybersomething alladin chipset. I installed XP and never looked back. The X code for Xvideo had paramters that were total guess work and Xvideo just wouldn't work.
I think you need to get some therapy now. You obviously haven't tried Solaris as a desktop. For a supposed kernel hacker you were a bit at sea there, weren't you? Well, I and countless others did get it working, and from my recent experiences, a hell of a lot more trouble free than Solaris. You lot seriously don't think that's a desktop or an easy to set up server, do you?
Only a fool or an ignorant college kid (which you seem to be) expects massive change overnight.
Have no idea what you're talking about there. The change has happened, and people moved from Solaris to Linux. The fact that you're talking the way you are proves this because you have some vain "Rome wasn't won in a day" hope people will move back.
But the annoucement mentioned that a hardware deal was comming.
No it didn't.
So still money in the pocket for Sun.
Well no, because Sun are barely breaking even, and that was after a massive culling of costs. Considering you're doing some wishful thinking there, are things worse at Sun than anyone has suspected?
This is getting boring...I have had enough of it.
It was boring when you wandered off screaming Solaris 10 and proclaiming all these benchmarks rather than answeing one guy's question about why many people had been consistently, for years, getting disappointing results out of Solaris. I take it you don't know. That's all you needed to tell us.
Member since:2005-07-07
Member since:2005-07-07
I think you need to get some therapy now. You obviously haven't tried Solaris as a desktop. For a supposed kernel hacker you were a bit at sea there, weren't you? Well, I and countless others did get it working, and from my recent experiences, a hell of a lot more trouble free than Solaris. You lot seriously don't think that's a desktop or an easy to set up server, do you?
You got Xvideo working on the Trident Cyblerbalde X1 chip. Point me to the diffs/patch or shutup...
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2005-07-07
Given that you've pulled the wool over your own eyes, I find that funny. You've been confronted by evidence born out by actual figures that proves that Solaris has a heritage of just not being plain good enough.
You call that garbage evidence. Evidence in terms of recent independant benchmarks has been provided to you that shows Solaris 10 beating linux on the same hardware. You have blinders on if you are still hanging on to the past. The only people who still have wool over thier eyes are you and the other linux zealots.
Your response? "But, but, but, but.....we have Solaris 10 and this benchmark is so old!!" Well no, that doesn't disprove the actual figures does it? The reason why there's no hard benchmarks surrounding Solaris 10 is basically because no one has got around to it.
I guess you can't read, let alone comprehend. Scroll up and look at the benchmarks from Anandtech. Solaris 10 beat linux that is fact. Those benchmarks are more valid than the one the blind linux zealots have posted so far.
Why? Well you could argue no one is really using it for the wide variety of stuff where they find problems yet. Yep, all the Python users and other open source people have jumped off the boat and they ain't getting back on - not that they ever were on.
Good for them...
Well no, that's not the whole story. People chose it because it was cheaper and they realised they could get just as good, if not far better, performance from a really decent x86 box running Linux.
You might want to read the other Sun related Article and see how many big datacenters don't just trust x86 running linux. A small college is no datacenter.
Unfortunately Sun likes to keep the myth going that people only moved because Linux and x86 was cheap. From first-hand experience I can tell you that's bollocks. The Linux stuff they used to replace Solaris with was so adequate people wondered what the hell they'd been doing all these years.
Yeah a college moving student labs to linux... oooh big losss there. Colleges buy the crap that they buy on heavy educational discounts. I used to manage my college labs and was privy to negotiations. The HP and Sun Unix boxes were rock solid and the cheap assembled Linux boxes were dying left right and center and constantly needed babysitting. I was horrendous.
From the evidence presented here in this thread I wouldn't say that's likely, would you? Linux was born on x86, and if you'd read around a bit you'd see it exterminated Solaris on its own hardware as well. That's not mouthing off like some silly exec - there are figures that bear that out.
Any sane person would gather the obvious and as many sane people have pointed out to you and the other linux zealots your data is meaningless. The only thing demonstrated by fact and data are the most recent benchmarks showing Solaris beating linux.
Where is this evidence then? It's funny how I've told you about a Solaris and Mac person who's gone in the other direction - and I've told you why. The reason why is not because of Linux Torvalds jumping on stage and shouting "Linux!", or dressing in a Pengiun suit. It wasn't even because Linux and the hardware was cheaper. It was for purely pragmatic reasons.
Let's see hearsay is evidence??? since when? He says she says never stands up as evidence in any court. You evidence is utter garbage. One person, switched.
I used to be a linux evangelist in college, I have since grown up and moved to Mac and Solaris. I stoppe palying with linux after A nightmarish weekend trying to get ALSA and video 4linux to work with my ATI all in wonder card with the 2.4 kernel and trying to get X video to work with a toshiba that used the Cybersomething alladin chipset. I installed XP and never looked back. The X code for Xvideo had paramters that were total guess work and Xvideo just wouldn't work.
Mmmmm, not seeing it. I don't see any mass exodus from Linux that bears that out either nor has anyone else noticed it.
Hmmm.. We have already established you are blind to the obvious. Solaris 10 was released this year. Big companies aren't college campuses and actually evaluate stuf for 9-10 months before migrating production environments.
Linux didn't become popular overnight. It took linux a good 13 years ( And many many corporate donations) to get where it has today. Only a fool or an ignorant college kid (which you seem to be) expects massive change overnight.
I hardly think they're going to start using Solaris 10. Google actually have some clever people inside their four walls. What they've announced is a Google toolbar thing with Java, and despite speculation, I doubt whether they have much of a clue where they're going.
There was not much meat in the announcement. But the annoucement mentioned that a hardware deal was comming. So still money in the pocket for Sun.
This is getting boring...I have had enough of it.