Linked by Hadrien Grasland on Mon 28th Feb 2011 11:23 UTC, submitted by Joao Luis
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Now that the dust has settled after Stephen Elop's big announcement on the 11th February 2011, many have come to realise that actually Nokia's move towards a a new Ecosystem is not as bad as what they thought. [...] But what does all this mean for the Nokia Developers? When the proposed partnership with Microsoft was announced, many felt betrayed and worried about their future, but after having heard and assisted a number of workshops at the Nokia Developer Day at this years Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, earlier this month, their outlook towards the new ecosystem has taken a 180 degree turn and are now looking at the proposed partnership with a lot more enthusiasm, recognising the potential it will bring them in the coming months."
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Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

and Microsoft relationships also helped a lot of companies .. like basically every Windows OEM. Lol.

Or the thousands of small businesses who've invested in Microsoft's platform to reap the benefits and get dirt cheap equipment/tools.

People just seem to focus on some high profile sour deals, but partnerships with MSFT happen and are successful every day of the year.

Nokia will not only make money off of WP7 handsets THEY sell, they will make money in licensing fees from WP7 devices OTHER OEMs sell since they will be also selling their services. That's significant value add.

They'd be just another OEM had they gone with Android. Let's be real, almost every OEM customization done to Android is fucking terrible. That's crappification, not differentiation.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

and Microsoft relationships also helped a lot of companies .. like basically every Windows OEM. Lol.

Or the thousands of small businesses who've invested in Microsoft's platform to reap the benefits and get dirt cheap equipment/tools.


Different kind of "partnership". MS has a history of bad partnerships, the kind that Nokia has now entered into. well, bad for the non-MS party, that is.

They'd be just another OEM had they gone with Android.

And now they'll probably end up just another OEM anyway, especially if WP7 becomes a success and other companies also wants it. It's pretty damn unlikely that Nokia will be favored then.

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

The argument is that given the choices, Windows Phone 7 was seen as the best one. I think that's pretty much true.

They could have gone it alone (MeeGo) but that's a significant question mark. Could they have readied it in time? Pushed a competent developer ecosystem? Brought devices to market? At the end of the day what would differentiate it from Android, iOS, webOS, or Windows Phone 7?

Is the fact that its more "open" than Android going to translate into more handsets sold? Does the end user even know what that is?

The amount of question marks in the idea was staggering, not to mention based off of what Intel showed of MeeGo at Barcelona, very little development actually occured in a years time. The OS seemed woefully off track (Remember Microsoft went from reset to market with Windows Phone 7 in 18 months).

I think the arguments about Nokia becoming just another OEM are overblown. First off, if the units being moved have a Nokia logo on them, I doubt very much Nokia cares that it doesnt make the OS. In addition, if they get licensing fees from Samsung, HTC, etc. selling Windows Phone, then that's even better. That's a lot of bank.

Basically the only assumption they have to make, is that WP7 will eventually be successful. I'd say given the trajectory (marketing, developer ecosystem increase rate, and satisfaction reports) that its not too unrealistic to expect Windows Phone 7 to achieve some form of success relative to Android and iOS, especially moreso than webOS.

I think given what they knew, WP7 was the best decision Nokia could have made. Definitely better than Android in my opinion.

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dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

That's the tech review perception but generally HTC did quite a good job and (IMO) improved android screen usability.
Whereas Motoblur approach to contact info aggregation was most innovative of the competiotion (within and outside of android world).

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dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

You assume, that MS will share WP7 royalities with Nokia. I read Elop stated that Nokia will pay MS for WP7 licences preety much as every other oem.

Other (uncertain) assumption is that Nokia will sometime get share of app market.
Given that MS will run the party I higly doubt this would be sustainable. They will surely find a way around it.
Note that in successfull MS partnerships were the successfull partner was always an upstart that has little to loose, rarely and established industry player.

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

People just seem to focus on some high profile sour deals, but partnerships with MSFT happen and are successful every day of the year.

Dude, Microsoft's whole mobile adventure has been one long disaster.

Nokia will not only make money off of WP7 handsets THEY sell, they will make money in licensing fees from WP7 devices OTHER OEMs sell since they will be also selling their services. That's significant value add.

Windows Phone has no market share next to iOS and Android, Nokia's market share is sinking like a brick and fewer and fewer people want their 'services'.

By the time Windows Phone appears on their devices next year Nokia will be killed off completely and Microsoft won't have the installed base they thought they were going to get. Microsoft will then move on to the next disaster.

They'd be just another OEM had they gone with Android.

I wonder why PC OEMs don't just view themselves like that when pre-installing Windows...... You can't have it all ways with your comparisons I'm afraid.

With Android what they've got is a mobile OS with meaningful market share that they have access to the code for. If push comes to shove then Nokia can branch off their own market place and all developers will need to do is submit the same code and applications to Nokia's store as they do to Google's.

With WP they've got an OS with no market share, few applications written that no one wants that won't see the light of day for another year that they have zero code control over.

The 'least worst option' was obvious.

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