Linked by Hadrien Grasland on Mon 28th Feb 2011 11:23 UTC, submitted by Joao Luis
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Now that the dust has settled after Stephen Elop's big announcement on the 11th February 2011, many have come to realise that actually Nokia's move towards a a new Ecosystem is not as bad as what they thought. [...] But what does all this mean for the Nokia Developers? When the proposed partnership with Microsoft was announced, many felt betrayed and worried about their future, but after having heard and assisted a number of workshops at the Nokia Developer Day at this years Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, earlier this month, their outlook towards the new ecosystem has taken a 180 degree turn and are now looking at the proposed partnership with a lot more enthusiasm, recognising the potential it will bring them in the coming months."
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The language barrier...
by Dr.Mabuse on Mon 28th Feb 2011 23:00 UTC
Dr.Mabuse
Member since:
2009-05-19

I would have thought that forcing developers to migrate from C/C++ (or Java) to .NET (and it's associated environment) would be an enormous barrier for existing Nokia/Symbian developers.

IMHO, It would be an easier jump (in terms of culture shock) to Android, or even business-focused BlackBerry.

Maybe I'm missing something ... But don't you require VisualStudio to develop for this mobile platform? It seems like a massive change!

What is the migration path here? This question alone would colour my opinion on the new Nokia-Microsoft partnership.

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RE: The language barrier...
by _txf_ on Tue 1st Mar 2011 00:06 in reply to "The language barrier..."
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

Maybe I'm missing something ... But don't you require VisualStudio to develop for this mobile platform? It seems like a massive change!


There is a free version for phones, I think. However great Visual studio is (it is the best Mega IDE out there) I still much preferred the elegance of Qt Creator. I Haven't used eclipse much but everybody around me tells me eclipse sucks.

I would say however that It is easier for a C++ dev to go to Java or C# (especially) than the other way. However very low level c++ developers will feel very constrained by managed runtimes.

What is the migration path here? This question alone would colour my opinion on the new Nokia-Microsoft partnership.


No Migration path. Start from scratch...

Edited 2011-03-01 00:07 UTC

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puelocesar Member since:
2008-10-30

Eclipse sucks. Big time. But at least you can code Qt for Android using Qt Creator.

I really doubt MS will let this happen on WP7

Edited 2011-03-01 01:14 UTC

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Dr.Mabuse Member since:
2009-05-19

No Migration path. Start from scratch...


I figured as much.

It could be said then, that for existing Nokia phone developers, there really isn't much difference if they were to stick with Nokia, or if they jump ship - they are probably learning a new system (or "environment") from scratch either way.

I suspect Nokia are hoping they will attract as many new developers (or more?) than they lose. It's an impressive gamble.

The question then of "What's the opinion of Nokia Developers about the Nokiasoft Partnership" probably doesn't seem so important to those in charge of Nokia right now, since they figured they were going down in flames anyhow.

Edited 2011-03-01 06:31 UTC

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RE: The language barrier...
by vodoomoth on Tue 1st Mar 2011 11:20 in reply to "The language barrier..."
vodoomoth Member since:
2010-03-30

Maybe I'm missing something ... But don't you require VisualStudio to develop for this mobile platform? It seems like a massive change!

I can confirm that there is a free version of Visual Studio specifically for WP7 development. I downloaded and went through the painfully long installation. I haven't used it but (unless there was an option that evaded me), you can't even make a Hello World C++ program with it. It is a special Visual Studio edition.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

C# is the only supported language.

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