Linked by David Adams on Thu 3rd Mar 2011 04:40 UTC, submitted by Amy Bennett
Java Later this year, Oracle will begin requiring people interested in gaining Java and Solaris certifications to attend "hands-on" training courses, at an additional cost of thousands of dollars. The new rule goes into effect Aug. 1 and regards Java Architect, Java Developer, Solaris System Administrator and Solaris Security Administrator certification paths, according to a notice on Oracle's website.
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Oracle no more
by andydread on Thu 3rd Mar 2011 13:13 UTC
andydread
Member since:
2009-02-02

I remember a time that the mere mention of Oracle in the IT shop was almost godly. People aspired to be Oracle certified and everyone liked Oracle products. Oracle was the company to look up to with a lot of respect and admiration. Now it seems they are rapdly becoming the technology to avoid. Oracle is seemingly becoming a bad word in the IT shop. Phrases such as "stay far from Oracle products" are becoming more common. I wonder if Oracle even cares about the reputation they are currently shaping of themselves in the IT world.

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RE: Oracle no more
by Zaitch on Thu 3rd Mar 2011 13:59 in reply to "Oracle no more"
Zaitch Member since:
2007-11-23

I wouldn't disagree with you at all -I have heard the same said about the technology.

I worked for Sun for 10+ years finishing in 2009 doing systems engineering and OS deployment. I joined an embryonic small company. You'd think I'd be a textbook example of someone bringing the awesome power of Solaris into a new environment.

Instead, with all the problems/concerns around licensing and future availability I personally made the decision to move to debian/ubuntu for all our servers, postgres for the DBs, and to a lesser extent avoiding java for software. This was definitely a case where the technology took a back seat in the decision making.

It really pains me that I had to do this but the uncertainty and this kind of ad hoc policy change and encroaching charges could kill a small company if they were trapped.

Not to mention free is a good price in a small company.

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RE[2]: Oracle no more
by Flatland_Spider on Fri 4th Mar 2011 05:33 in reply to "RE: Oracle no more"
Flatland_Spider Member since:
2006-09-01

I'm in the same boat. I work for a small engineering firm, and I would love to ditch Openfiler (that decision pre-dates my tenure) and move our NAS over to Solaris for ZFS and better iSCSI support. Unfortunately, I can't for the exact reasons you mentioned.

Our Red Hat/CentOS boxes work great, and we will probably stick with that. If OpenSolaris still existed, I might be able to slip some stuff in, but not now.

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RE: Oracle no more
by Delgarde on Thu 3rd Mar 2011 19:53 in reply to "Oracle no more"
Delgarde Member since:
2008-08-19

When they mostly stuck to databases, that was certainly true - they made a pretty good one, and someone certified in administering and tuning it was worth a premium.

Since they started going all expansionary and buying other companies left, right and center, not so much. The core database is still pretty well respected, but regard for their acquired products (from Sun, from BEA, etc) has certainly suffered.

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RE: Oracle no more
by benali72 on Tue 8th Mar 2011 03:36 in reply to "Oracle no more"
benali72 Member since:
2008-05-03

I agree 100%. Oracle Corp has been on a huge acquisition binge for the past several years, even while they aggressively optimize their revenues on the backs of their existing customers.

They seem intent on acquiring the reputation Computer Associates had for years in IT shops. They don't seem realize how damaging this can be -- CA is only now escaping this image after a decade of trying.

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