Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 7th Mar 2011 23:21 UTC
Legal Well, how about some positive news to end this day? How about annoying the heck out of the Business Software Alliance? There's a new proposal for a directive on consumer rights in the EU, and in it, digital goods - software, online services, and so on - are explicitly defined as goods that are no different than any other good - like bread, watches, or cars. In other words, you would suddenly own the copies of software you buy, effectively declaring the EULA as a worthless piece of paper. Surprise - the BSA is not happy about this.
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RE: Um, I disagree
by JAlexoid on Tue 8th Mar 2011 03:04 UTC in reply to "Um, I disagree"
JAlexoid
Member since:
2009-05-19

Software *is* unlike a physical good.


You do understand that software is currently equated to art. Even the most braindead software developer can't believe that software is art.

Software is goods(for most part), not art.
And being classified as goods, does not imply new regulations for the software developer.

So far, I have enough trust in EU council to say it's intentions are good. And stuff in EU is already priced at a higher level, because consumer rights are wider.

As far as EULAs go, they aren't exactly cancelled, but could not be applied retrospectively or implied by the vendor.

And no one is implying that software vendors will be liable for crashes. What it does is imply, if it says that software will work - then it's a violation of your right as a consumer if it does not. Regardless of EULA.

But then again, this is draft version and will be amended 100 times.

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RE[2]: Um, I disagree
by lucas_maximus on Tue 8th Mar 2011 12:40 in reply to "RE: Um, I disagree"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

You do understand that software is currently equated to art. Even the most braindead software developer can't believe that software is art.


But putting good software together is a bit of an art.

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RE[3]: Um, I disagree
by TheGZeus on Tue 8th Mar 2011 19:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Um, I disagree"
TheGZeus Member since:
2010-05-19

Same could be said about making/doing a good [insert anything that can be made or done].

Should your car be © of manufacturer, and you with no right to sell or modify?

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RE[3]: Um, I disagree
by JAlexoid on Wed 9th Mar 2011 03:00 in reply to "RE[2]: Um, I disagree"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

But putting good software together is a bit of an art.


In your case art has a a bit of a different definition:
- a superior skill that you can learn by study and practice and observation; "the art of conversation"; "it's quite an art"

My case it's a result of human creativity. Software is a result of trade not art.
Otherwise mathematics and math equations is also art.

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RE[2]: Um, I disagree
by Lennie on Tue 8th Mar 2011 13:40 in reply to "RE: Um, I disagree"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

I thought it was equated to writing. Writing might be a subset of art in the laws most of us use I don't know.

But I tend to think programming (writing software) is kind of like writing a book.

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RE[3]: Um, I disagree
by JAlexoid on Wed 9th Mar 2011 03:02 in reply to "RE[2]: Um, I disagree"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

I thought it was equated to writing. Writing might be a subset of art in the laws most of us use I don't know.

But I tend to think programming (writing software) is kind of like writing a book.



And books are equal to paintings, symphonies and sculpture in the eyes of the law.

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