Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 7th Mar 2011 19:31 UTC, submitted by Debjit
Gnome I have to admit I've been struggling with this one for a while, most importantly because I haven't used GNOME 3 yet; I'm setting up my own little company right now, so time's a little short. As such, all I can do here is cover the arguments given - which, in my book, have both their strong as well as their weak points. Yes, GNOME 3 will not have buttons for minimising or maximising windows.
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Interesting
by Soulbender on Tue 8th Mar 2011 04:03 UTC
Soulbender
Member since:
2005-08-18

Personally I think this is a very interesting development. It basically does away with window management as we know it and I can see why that would rub many people the wrong way. I say they should go for it though. Maybe it will fail in a spectacualr way but at least they tried something new and if no-one tried nothing would ever happen. Then again, I found KDE4 interesting too, even from the beginning.

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RE: Interesting
by TheGZeus on Tue 8th Mar 2011 04:15 in reply to "Interesting"
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2010-05-19

Yeah, I'm a fan, if not a user of KDE4.
The biggest changes KDE4 made were under-the-hood and initially theoretical. Workspaces vs activities was a big O_o for most people until 4.6!
A mainstream desktop environment with a tiling-capable window manager? Neat. Heck, I can't think, off hand of any tiling WM that allows you to use the mouse to adjust the layout. Scriptable with various languages? Neat!

Plasma is really cool. A plasmoid can now be run in the panel, on the desktop, in a window, full-screen... It's really really cool!

GNOME 3 seems more about superficial changes, trying to change how the user interacts with the computer... Gnome-shell is also a big monolithic... thing.

Never been a fan of how GNOME does things, and this is no exception.

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RE[2]: Interesting
by Soulbender on Tue 8th Mar 2011 04:23 in reply to "RE: Interesting"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Workspaces vs activities was a big O_o for most people until 4.6!


You know, Activities is the one thing in KDE4 that I don't get. I can switch between different setup of widgets on my desktop? Uhm, why? I guess it's because I never put any widgets on my desktop...

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RE: Interesting
by phoenix on Tue 8th Mar 2011 06:12 in reply to "Interesting"
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2005-07-11

Plasma-netbook has been doing this since 4.4? Well, 4.5 for sure.

With plasma-netbook, all windows are maximised, including modal dialogs. There's also no window borders or title bars, which means no minimise or maximise buttons.

On small (10" 1024x768 for example), this works wonderfully, as it adds quite a bit of extra vertical space.

On large screens (like connecting a palmtop to a 23" 1600x1050 LCD), it's not horrible, but not being able to see two windows at once can be challenging.

Personally, I find adding the standard taskbar widget to the plasma-netbook interface is pretty much the perfect UI for small screens.

Will be interesting to see how GNOME3's UI works on large screens. I can see it being useful on small screens, but large ones?

KDE4 got this right, I think, by splitting plasma up into different UIs for different uses (phone, palmtop, laptop, desktop, etc).

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RE: Interesting
by ari-free on Tue 8th Mar 2011 18:08 in reply to "Interesting"
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2007-01-22

Then gnome will be for hobbyists to play with and not for real work.

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