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FreeBSD "How long have you been using FreeBSD. Months? Years? Decades? And you love using it because of whatever reason but at the same time you're feeling a bit guilty to use it all for free without giving anything back? Well now you'll have the chance to change that. We at FreeBSD are always in need of new people who are willing to spare some of their time and effort into FreeBSD development."
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RE[2]: maybe its the license
by vodoomoth on Tue 8th Mar 2011 09:19 UTC in reply to "RE: maybe its the license"
vodoomoth
Member since:
2010-03-30

Now the question is what should the FreeBSD guys do to provide what is important to you, i.e. Flash support? I think your answer would be useful if it could get to them.

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Liquidator Member since:
2007-03-04

Personally, I need the desktop part of FreeBSD. I know there's PC-BSD, but let's consider only FreeBSD, which is the topic we're discussing. I just need Opera, which works properly, the Adobe Reader and Flash plugins, which both don't work seemlessly on FreeBSD. There's not much we can do about it. We have been working hard trying to find patches, hacks to make them work better, with little success. We have signed petitions, with no results from Adobe. The solution for me has been to move to Linux, sadly.

Other than that, in order to have a clean, working FreeBSD desktop, you need to spend heck of a time to install stuff using the terminal, edit files, etc... To configure your D.E. and other things that take seconds on Windows or Linux. The Gnome default theme is old too...There is no working equivalent to Synaptic or Yast for FreeBSD. Ports and packages very often return errors when installing or compiling, and you need to ask for help on the FreeBSD forum. Versions of apps are older than on Linux repos. Even less hardware is supported (terrible for hardware such as HDMI capture boards, newer printers, newer scanners, DVB boards...).Overall, it takes more time and effort to get what you expect from a modern desktop. I'm not saying it can't be done.

So in order to get back to FreeBSD, many things need to be improved, but it's sadly not always possible because it depends on third parties (software vendors and hardware manufacturers).

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RE[4]: maybe its the license
by vodoomoth on Tue 8th Mar 2011 10:29 in reply to "RE[3]: maybe its the license"
vodoomoth Member since:
2010-03-30

Other than that, in order to have a clean, working FreeBSD desktop, you need to spend heck of a time to install stuff using the terminal, edit files, etc... To configure your D.E. and other things that take seconds on Windows or Linux. The Gnome default theme is old too...There is no working equivalent to Synaptic or Yast for FreeBSD. Ports and packages very often return errors when installing or compiling, and you need to ask for help on the FreeBSD forum.

Having had that exact experience just weeks ago, I totally understand this. And that's why I've chosen PC-BSD, not installed yet but I'm seeding the iso file.

On the Adobe Reader subject, aren't there X alternatives to it? On Vista, I replaced that memory hog with SumatraPDF; so far, it has had everything I needed and its automatic reloading of modified files is a useful feature. I guess there are open source pdf viewers that would work on FreeBSD?

And Opera on FreeBSD even faster than anything I could have imagined (despite being a long-time user on Windows and Linux on the same machine and the same network...) That's the point I loved the most :-)

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

If Flash support wasn't as important as important as it is, I would suggest OpenBSD for your complaints about ports not compiling. This was also a source of frustration with FreeBSD for me.

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Gone fishing Member since:
2006-02-22

let's consider only FreeBSD, which is the topic we're discussing.


But PCBSD is FreeBSD respun for ease on the desktop. The PCBSD installer even offers to install a standard FreeBSD minus GUI if you wish.

The standard FreeBSD isn't made to be a Desktop - their slogan is "The Power to Serve". FreeBSD is basically a server OS. I've just finished setting up a box and the installer isn't like a ubuntu installer you have to work if you want for example a journalled file system.

I'd say it's less popular because it is a conservative, rather than cutting edge OS that isn't made to attract the masses and there is nothing wrong with that.

You want FreeBSD for the desktop try PCBSD which has as it's first feature a "Fully functional desktop operating system, running FreeBSD 8.x® under the hood."

http://www.pcbsd.org/content/view/12/26/

Edited 2011-03-08 12:31 UTC

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RE[4]: maybe its the license
by Oliver on Tue 8th Mar 2011 22:56 in reply to "RE[3]: maybe its the license"
Oliver Member since:
2006-07-15

No, we don't need another *buntu. Think about FreeBSD in terms of quality instead of quantity and compare it with distros like Slackware, Gentoo, Debian and to some degree ArchLinux.

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