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FreeBSD "How long have you been using FreeBSD. Months? Years? Decades? And you love using it because of whatever reason but at the same time you're feeling a bit guilty to use it all for free without giving anything back? Well now you'll have the chance to change that. We at FreeBSD are always in need of new people who are willing to spare some of their time and effort into FreeBSD development."
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RE[5]: maybe its the license
by Lennie on Tue 8th Mar 2011 11:24 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: maybe its the license"
Lennie
Member since:
2007-09-22

The longer I think about it.

I think most poeple don't want to compile, just install binaries with source available when they need it.

What FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, Gentoo do only appeals to a smaller portion of the open source world. Maybe most just want to install it and get to work.

Maybe that is the problem ?

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Liquidator Member since:
2007-03-04

Yes, I prefer binaries, as they should be more simple and take less time to install, but package installation usually aborts at some point, that is the problem for me.

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RE[6]: maybe its the license
by lonerman on Tue 8th Mar 2011 16:10 in reply to "RE[5]: maybe its the license"
lonerman Member since:
2011-03-08

I can't say anything about the other BSDs, but OBSD does in fact encourage NOT compiling everything.

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#WhySrc
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#Ports

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RE[6]: maybe its the license
by laffer1 on Tue 8th Mar 2011 17:09 in reply to "RE[5]: maybe its the license"
laffer1 Member since:
2007-11-09

That is one difference between BSD and Linux. Most BSDs encourage building from ports. There are two choices for going to packages though:

PC-BSD (PBIs)
MidnightBSD (mport packages)

I forked FreeBSD because it lacked on the desktop and I also need developers. My goal is to make a desktop OS and not to make a server/embedded platform. The first task was coming up with a unique ports and package system. I just committed the first working version (with remote fetch, search, etc) of the new mport package management tools this week. I'm planning on writing a GUI version as well.

PC-BSD is much ahead of us on installation and package management at the moment, but that's going to change.

I suggest desktop users get involved with MidnightBSD or PC-BSD development if they want to improve the BSD on the desktop situation. We're the two projects trying to do that. Feature requests welcome.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

OpenBSD actually discourage building packages from source.

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allanregistos Member since:
2011-02-10

The longer I think about it.

I think most poeple don't want to compile, just install binaries with source available when they need it.

What FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, Gentoo do only appeals to a smaller portion of the open source world. Maybe most just want to install it and get to work.

Maybe that is the problem ?



You hit the nail. The market of FreeBSD is big corporations/enterprises, not the end consumers and desktop users. And besides, only developers and system admins will tinker with FreeBSD, even with this market, can only be found among Linux admins/devs, and almost zero from Windows admins. I myself a Linux user will never use FreeBSD for the company where I work(except perhaps for some FreeBSD-based firewall distros) because it won't support the software I want it to run, like Zimbra. If you want to run a *customized* thing on a FreeBSD box, then you must have the resources(high-paid admins) to do so, and you only have few options available, while in Linux there are tons available and commercial support. I am not saying there are no commercial support for *BSD.

But I know that there are good things about *BSD but as of this moment, those good things are not worth enough to have a switch.

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RE[7]: maybe its the license
by ScaredyCat on Thu 10th Mar 2011 22:52 in reply to "RE[6]: maybe its the license"
ScaredyCat Member since:
2011-03-10

What if you would be offered a repackaged version of FreeBSD oriented towards business users like you -- with commercial support and binary packages offered through an easily accessible and popular framework like dpkg/apt ? Would you be tempted to try EnterpriseBSD (see URL below) ?

PS: we're always happy to get feedback & suggestions.

http://www.enterprisebsd.com/
http://www.enterprisebsd.com/have-your-say

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