Linked by snydeq on Tue 8th Mar 2011 23:54 UTC
Windows Grizzled Unix vet Paul Venezia tips his cap to the Windows Server crew, suggesting that the lessons of Unix history have not been lost on Microsoft -- and that's one reason why Windows Server has become so complex. 'The Windows Server of today has more in common with Unix than many people want to admit. The upside: more stable servers, greater scope of services, better adherence to standards, and Microsoft's newfound willingness to work with its competition. The downside is that Windows has become more complex than Unix from a management and administration point of view,' Venezia writes, even if he still sees some Windows admin practices as prime examples of how not to administer servers.
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RE[2]: digging
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 9th Mar 2011 11:06 UTC in reply to "RE: digging"
Thom_Holwerda
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2005-06-29

You could get Server 2008 and run without a GUI at all.

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RE[3]: digging
by saso on Wed 9th Mar 2011 12:15 in reply to "RE[2]: digging"
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2007-04-18

OP doesn't talk about gui vs. non-gui, he's talking about Unix being a really elegant way of designing a system by not overdesigning it. In Windows, settings reside in the registry, INI files, binary configuration files and are scattered about the filesystem without any sense of organizational structure.

The Unix *culture* on the other hand is that of building on top of existing infrastructure. Unix has a fairly well designed and simple file system, so you just put conffiles in /etc, just like everybody else does. Of course there's the odd misfit who doesn't play nice, instead scattering their crap around in /opt/vendor/package or /usr/package - those are then ridiculed in the Unix culture, rather than glorified.

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RE[4]: digging
by jptros on Wed 9th Mar 2011 14:28 in reply to "RE[3]: digging"
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2005-08-26

OP doesn't talk about gui vs. non-gui, he's talking about Unix being a really elegant way of designing a system by not overdesigning it. In Windows, settings reside in the registry, INI files, binary configuration files and are scattered about the filesystem without any sense of organizational structure.


I'm pretty sure he wasn't saying that either. No, I interpreted it as "I don't know my way around windows server and I'm having to do some work to figure things out therefore it sucks." Funny thing is, there's probably some windows server admin saying the same thing right now about a [insert unfamiliar system] they inherited responsibility for.

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