Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 10th Mar 2011 12:59 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y If you were, you know, living your lives, you've probably missed it, but old fires are burning brightly once again: there's somewhat of a falling-out going on between KDE and GNOME, with Canonical siding squarely with... KDE. The issue seems to revolve around GNOME's lack of collaboration, as explained by KDE's Aaron Seigo.
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Richard Dale
Member since:
2005-07-22

One thing I'm missing from these discussions is how exactly does the current Gnome Shell implement app notifications.

Does it have them at all? If they are implemented, what features do they use that couldn't be done if the KDE/Canonical/Freedesktop spec was being used? If the Freedesktop spec is lacking in functionality, then would it be possible to change it to add whatever the Gnome Shell needs to work?

Instead of technical issues like these being discussed, there just seems to be a lot of naming calling. Just because cooperation failed for whatever reason a year or two ago, I don't see any reason for the parties involved to just give up.

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Timmmm Member since:
2006-07-25

I don't think it's notifications - as far as I could tell it's about the little grey-scale icons in the panel that control stuff like volume, networking, user-switching, etc.

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Richard Dale Member since:
2005-07-22

I don't think it's notifications - as far as I could tell it's about the little grey-scale icons in the panel that control stuff like volume, networking, user-switching, etc.


I read the discussion on the freedesktop list about 'appindicators' and understood it to be an attempt to separate the info that an app might want to send to a desktop shell about its current state, from how the desktop shell might present the data. So 'little grey-scale icons' as you describe could be one way of presenting the data, but the spec didn't mandate that.

The Gnome devs appeared to be saying that it would be impossible to separate the data sent by the app, from how it is presented. They said the freedesktop org spec couldn't possibly work, which might well be a reasonable opinion for all I know.

But surely now we have three actual implementations of 'little grey-scale icon things' or similar, it should be possible to objectively describe the technical issues, and evaluate the opinions that were expressed a year or two ago?

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