Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 10th Mar 2011 12:59 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y If you were, you know, living your lives, you've probably missed it, but old fires are burning brightly once again: there's somewhat of a falling-out going on between KDE and GNOME, with Canonical siding squarely with... KDE. The issue seems to revolve around GNOME's lack of collaboration, as explained by KDE's Aaron Seigo.
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Competition Argument doesn't Hold Water
by hackus on Thu 10th Mar 2011 22:27 UTC
hackus
Member since:
2006-06-28

I can't see how Shuttleworth thinks bringing division within GNOME will help it.

Sounds like too me he is trying to divide GNOME and destroy it.

I am also not impressed with Ubuntu's contributions to the whole Linux desktop thing. We need technical solutions to the desktop problems of LINUX in the areas of device drivers badly, and much less in the "marketing" area.

LINUX desktop's are no longer an area where people have never heard of them. The problem is it is not entirely feasible for everyone to use LINUX and that comes down to poor hardware support.

I would like to see the guy enter through LINUX support at freedesktop.org with a 50 Million dollar grant to resolve the ludicrous display architecture issues we have with video cards and OpenGL/CL support for ATI cards.

You could hire 30 people for 5 years to work 24 by seven on the issue with 50 million bucks and the problem would get solved much sooner than that and provide a nice open source display architecture for LINUX and full 3D support on the fastest graphics GPU's available.

-Hack

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jamboarder Member since:
2009-02-16

It may well require a slight touch of paranoia to suggest that GNOME Shell folks were afraid of competition so they deliberately implemented an incompatible systray/notification area. They may simply have been so caught up in getting things done they forgot or ignored the fact that there were other folks trying to implement a cross-desktop systray/notification spec. It was, at minimum, careless.

The hope now is that the community can start working together to fix this particular issue and fix/prevent other issues.

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Delgarde Member since:
2008-08-19

They may simply have been so caught up in getting things done they forgot or ignored the fact that there were other folks trying to implement a cross-desktop systray/notification spec. It was, at minimum, careless.


Oh, I think it's deliberate enough - there's not much doubt of that if you read the mailing list posts. It seems pretty clear that the Gnome people simply weren't happy with cross-desktop spec that was being put together, concluded they couldn't change it enough to be workable for them, and opted not to use it.

So yeah, for better or worse, it was certainly a deliberate design decision, not a case of forgetting or not knowing about other efforts.

I'm personally inclined to agree with them - Ubuntu have produced decent docs for their AppIndicators implementation of the spec, but the spec itself is extremely vague in terms of what an app that uses the interface can expect to happen. I appreciate Aaron's point that this should be determined by the implementation, but the spec still should provide some guidelines.

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