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Uhmm..how old do you think HAL is? Older than shared libraries? Seriously?? This amazing ignorance pretty much disqualifies you from being taken even remotely serious on this topic.
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If lack of information is grounds for disqualification you just ruled yourself out.

Hald selection at the time was due to backward compadiblity with Unix's and embed posix systems at the time that did not have shared libraries.

This baggage has to be discarded. Please go back and read the early debates on Hald and you will find a lot of people quoted a lot of older Unix service based designs as well.

Hald is Legacy of Unix is correct. Its the Legacy of the Unix way of doing things before shared libraries.

Not that it existed when all Unixs lacked shared libraries.


Becase they dont want systemd? I havent ever heard anyone in BSD complain about systemd not being portable. Heck, BSD and Linux doesnt even use the same starup system now.
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systemd is not portable yes. But Launchd where the Linux design for systemd starts has been around for quite awhile and BSD did not take it up or anything matching its speed either.

Simple fact of the issue BSD system is too old. Work is need asp to address many issues. Then more grounds to be talking about sharing can form.

Tech that does not meet todays requirements cannot just keep on being used.


Yep but who cares? its a pointless, penis-measurement metric.
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In fact is not a pointless metric. On devices every second counts. Since that second of runtime is eating into the battery what is the total runtime you have. Slow starting is costly.

Calling it a pointless metric shows how far out of touch you are with todays device requirements. Also people want to flick the power-switch and have a device on almost instantly.

Poor bootup speed is not a fault that can be left.


That's not a BSD argument or attitude. Now you're just making shit up. "

Then explain why BSD personal have been missing from the shared forums of freedesktop.org. Some of the BSD world have put forwards the argument stated. Not all.

Any putting forward the argument that freedesktop is for Linux or wait for the innovation to settle need sorted out need to be hammered for it.

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What is with the recent flood of people who think they know nearly everything about computing, and can't get basic facts down...

Uhmm..how old do you think HAL is? Older than shared libraries? Seriously?? This amazing ignorance pretty much disqualifies you from being taken even remotely serious on this topic.
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If lack of information is grounds for disqualification you just ruled yourself out.

Hald selection at the time was due to backward compadiblity with Unix's and embed posix systems at the time that did not have shared libraries. [/q]

This statement is completely and utterly wrong. HAL is a daemon for two reasons:

1) To have a centralized hub for all hardware information.
2) The most important one: Because hald needs root level privileges in order to access hardware directly to get information. Direct hardware access is a security nightmare if given to normal user programs.

You're hilarious. Unix has had shared libraries since around SunOS4.
Also, udevd is a daemon. Why is that? I thought "dynamic libraries" was the solution?
hal and udev are daemons because they need escalated privs, not because some obscure Unix variant that doesn't support shared libraries.



BSD is not designed for those kind of personal devices.